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"The wife with a friend". Zoom isn't the priority.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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My wife has been using her own Windows computer daily for over 10 years.
For the last 5 years that is a Dell laptop running Windows 10.
She surfs the web, reads newspapers online, uses Facebook.
She receives and sends email.
She takes photos on her phone and also on a compact camera and likes to get the images out onto a USB stick to take to the local photo-printing place.
Yet, after 10 years, she still cannot use any of these and has to ask me help EVERY TIME:
- Ctrl-click to add/subtract to/from selection
- Shift-click to select a range.
- Cut/Copy/Paste to get files from Downloads to memory stick
- Cut/Copy/Paste to work with text in an email or Word document
- Use ability of File Explorer to sort files by extension, name, date etc to help find desired files.
- Use ability of File Explorer to search for desired files by name
- Navigate an Open File or Save File picker to any folder.
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I tend to find that when people expect something to be complicated and hard to understand going in, it will be for them, and I think this is one of the biggest barriers to computer literacy - expectations.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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2 second comparison of meet.google.com and zoom.us
both - have to create accounts to use
meet - minimal starting page
- medium plus size window the new meeting is on left, would be prefer center, focused
- click new meeting opens another dialog  , would prefer show 3 opens just as without select menu. hidden options not always the best
- create for later, unclear what I would do with link. Simple prompt for share with or copy and save somewhere on computer.
- don't need account if just joining, same as zoom.
zoom
- accept cookies message. double checked meet (private and cache clear) and no cookie warning, props to google.
- require login (same on google, but when already signed in it wasnt obvious)
- oh, wait, no there is a Join in top menu. I assumed the MASSIVE join for free was prompt to create meeting
- one landing page. lots of clutter compared to meet.
- also the left side of create login 
- also when get links from others the amount of use the desktop app makes it confusing and another hurdle on pain.
both could be improved. but imma suggest use meet.google.com unless you got the googleitest alergy
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Heh,I remember being pretty much lost when Windows 8.0 came out. I never figured out about the corners, had to do a web search to find out about them. And the text on screen that might or might not be button. It was such a cluster that I finally made the jump to Linux as my main OS. I just keep a Windows VM around for games, TurboTax and the occasional photo editing session.
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Inductive user interface. That is what is needed for people, who do not compute. And if software is meant to be used actively, an active tutorial is needed to show and train controls. Like in video games.
But then there are hard cases, where I think only voice driven AI interface would help (like in start trek). Icons and commands just don't mesh well with some people.
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My younger sister used to say : "They don't have a mother? Give it to her, if she can use it, then good, otherwise work on it a bit more."
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I can't put it down!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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heard that one but always good for a laugh.
another old one
NASA had to close their Lunar restaurant. It had no atmosphere.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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wow. I guess I am getting too old. Thanx. Need to take some memory pills.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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They are keeping the space bar open, it's still hit very often.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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How did you find all these previous posts?
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I can't put it down!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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Johnny was sitting in a dark restaurant.
He said to this lady sitting next to him,
"Would you like to hear a blonde joke?"
She said,
"Well, before you tell me, you should know that I'm blonde,
6 foot tall and a professional body builder!
The lady next to me is blonde, 6 foot 2 and a professional wrestler!
And the lady next to her is blonde, 6 foot 5 and
the kickboxing champion of the world!!
Now, do you still want to tell me?"
He thought about it for a moment and then said,
"No! ..Not if I''m going to have to explain it three times!"
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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An old snake goes to see his doctor and says,
” I need something for my eyes… I can’t see very well these days”.
The doctor fixes him up with a pair of glasses
and tells him to return in two weeks.
The snake comes back in two weeks and
tells the doctor he’s very depressed.
The doctor asks, “What’s the problem? Didn’t the glasses help you?”
The snake says, “The glasses are fine doc.
I just discovered I’ve been living with a water hose the past 2 years!”
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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not where i first heard it, but good info
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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But I think I've managed to eliminate entity framework from my MVC5 (.Net Framework) app, but keep the user management functionality so I can have single-user authentication, and use my own DAL/connection string manager code in the process.
It compiles, so it's on to seeing if I did it right.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Quote: It compiles, so it's on to seeing if I did it right.
You're experienced enough to know that 90% of the work probably lies ahead. 
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