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I used punch cards while in college ('76-80). I was the programmer and the coder. But, at my first job after I'd graduated, they no longer used punch cards. That had stopped a few years before I started.
Back when they did use punch cards, the programmers wrote their code by hand on Fortran coding sheets. The sheets were given to keypunch girls (back then no self-respecting man ever took a typing course.). They typed up the cards and gave them back to the programmer who turned the deck into the system operators. The deck was read and run and the results given back to the programmer. You could generally get 2 runs in per day. Turn the deck in before lunch, after lunch check the results, make corrections then turn in the fixed deck before heading home that day. Next morning, get last night's results and the wheel gets another turn. The key puncher had no idea about the code, they blindly typed in what was on the coding sheets. Although, I was told the really good ones would fix simple errors on the sheets if they saw an obvious one, like a misspelled key word. So, not really pair programming at all.
When I started, the company had terminals connected to the mainframe. About 1 terminal for every 4 programmers. So, we still wrote our code onto coding sheets but we took them to a terminal and typed them in ourselves. You had to sign up for 2 hour terminal sessions but you could often find an open one where someone had finished their session early. You could often get 3, 4 or even 5 runs in a day then, though we usually printed out failed results and desk debugged since the mainframe had no debugger.
It took 4 years before some exec figured out that giving $25k programmers each their own $200 terminal was a financial no brainer. Still no debugger though. Ahhh, those halcyon days working on an 1100 series mainframe at Sperry Univac. I miss them like last year's root canal. 
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Been there done that as well.FreedMalloc wrote: I miss them like last year's root canal
My root canal last year was a piece of cake. The dental surgery the year before, not so much (trismus ('lock jaw') and a 10-day migraine).
Software Zen: delete this;
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ditto
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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The early days of computer science was discrete in functionality. In this Youtube video example, a person went from a paper trail of equations, to a flow chart then to programming statements (in Fortran, Cobol, Algol, ...) to be compiled into an executable piece of "code". very step-wise. I know I was there. Later pseudo-code took the place of equations, flow charts, etc. then directly programming into the computer language of choice on a keyboard-terminal computer interface with either real-time execution such as Java, Python, etc. or into a complex collection of executable statements compiled and linked with libraries, etc. The programming/coding functionality is blurred toward a usable piece of "code" aka a program.
Just saying.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Anyone seen "Dr Strange in the multiverse of madness"? Saw it this Saturday. Amazing, never-ending CGI. Entertaining. Sticks in your head.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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My wife and son saw it last week and found it very difficult to follow. My son did not like it. I think my wife was being nice. I told them that I had read that Sam Raimi had a mandate to make the movie appear chaotic. From what I read so far, he did a good job at that but many fans did not care for that.
Glad you liked it. Dr. Strange is one of my favorite characters on screen for this movie genre.
I am going to wait till it streams to see it.
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You really have to have seen Wandavision to follow it.
And it also includes a lot of extra characters that have only appeared in other not so mainstream Marvel TV series and films before, which is great for the avid fans of all of Marvel's stuff, but makes it a bit more confusing for the ones who only watch the main MCU movies.
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A lot of the Disney Marvel/Star Wars show have online streaming series that are pretty much mandatory if you are going to follow the plot and characters of the big theatrical movies now. Great if you are a fan and watch everything and sucks if you are a casual fan or a new comer to the show.
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My son says the same thing. One flick is not enough for these types of movies. Almost like the old serial adventures from early movies and TV's.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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jmaida wrote: Sticks in your head.
The last thing I would want is sticks in my head. What did the doctor say?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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lol
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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 - I gave up on crappy Hollywood comic book / super hero flicks about 10 years ago.
Sadly that leaves ~2 "original" movies per year... on a good year.
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"Sadly that leaves ~2 "original" movies per year... on a good year."
I doubt there are even that many. Hollywood cannot think of a new idea even if they tried. And I am pretty sure they don't try. I have a neighbor who writes for one of the "shows" on one of the networks. She doesn't have an original thought in her head.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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fgs1963 wrote: crappy Hollywood comic book / super hero flicks
There's another kind?
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Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Same - close one!
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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