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Yep, exactly 
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Agreed.
And Teams has a weird color scheme that does not follow my prefs, so it is heard to find its title bar.
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Excel _is_ a fantastic tool!
But this overload of the tile bar drives me crazy  You never know (especially in Office 365) what action a click on the title bar will happen 
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Is that a problem?
I may have a paranoia - but they may be after me nevertheless! So I keep my Internet connection open only when I am actively using the connection. (E.g. I have discovered that every time I write back to disk a Word document, a message is sent to a telemetry server, and I don't know what information that report contains.) So I keep a small 'Networks Connections' window at my desktop: I can double click it when I need Internet functions, and right click/Disable when I go on to other tasks, such as editing Word documents.
This NC window is minimized as far as it allows, so the window title hits the minimize/fullscreen/exit buttons. Not even the full title is displayed. But I can move it around, by grabbing it by the title.
For Excel, I've only got an old 2013 version, but it works the same: No matter how small I make the window, at least one character of the title line is displayed, and I can drag the window around by that. Maybe newer Excel versions are different.
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*lol* really? No, I don't speek about 2013... Do you know Office 365?
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0x01AA wrote: Do you know Office 365?
As suggested by my post ("For Excel, I've only got an old 2013 version"), so I have to rely on you: What happens if you try to drag the window by the title text?
I read between the lines that dragging by an unoccupied part of the window header line works fine. Does it work for the window title field as well, as long as there is some unoccupied, 'draggable', part of the header line, or can you never drag the window by its title field?
Well ... I am certainly far away from those who will be debugging this, so I am just suggesting questions you should be prepared for when you report the problem to the appropriate people.
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I admit the change to the Ribbon interface all but killed my expertise in Office. The Ribbon is apparently the result of Microsoft Marketing conducting endless focus groups, but I think it violates common-sense rules of UI design. One such rule is that the interface shouldn't change, but the Ribbon changes according to the width of the application window.
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RobertSF wrote: One such rule is that the interface shouldn't change, but the Ribbon changes according to the width of the application window.
Someone tell that to web designers. Entire sections can disappear altogether based on available space.
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I work with a lot of mechanical and electrical engineers for whom Excel is their only document tool. I've received 100+ page specifications in the form of Excel spreadsheets.
Between this misuse, and the fact the stupid ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ing app still won't let you run multiple instances on separate monitors, Excel is not my favorite Office app.
Software Zen: delete this;
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All engineers love Excel! And they make considerable messes. Their employers love this devotion because they get free spreadsheets this way. But it costs many millions due to the jumbled cell formulas, among other things that generate errors in designs. I've experienced this many times. I offer software to replace these "free" spreadsheets. No interest whatsoever, because I want $.
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote: the fact the stupid [mastadon] ing app still won't let you run multiple instances on separate monitors
I don't understand, it's totally possible to launch multiple files with Excel or even multiple instances of Excel and move one to a different monitor.
Cheers,
Vikram.
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Also Outlook. 
/ravi
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Office 2003 still works just fine.
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I use 2007. It's compatible with Microsoft 365. I got it Free under a multi user license.
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Keyboard controls should work, I believe. Alt + Spacebar -> Move and arrow keys.
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Excel isn't the only toolbar to disappear and it annoys me to no end. Yes the keys work, but that's a lot of key strokes and I am constantly moving windows around. I know, I'll use autohotkey to make the 'windows'key and arrows automatically move the current window in focus. I think the other combo's are taken.
Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.
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Windows key + arrows. Who moves a window with the mouse in 2022  ?
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It doesn't "move", it does what it thinks it's best. At least on most Linux you can move windows with Alt+mouse from any part of the window, and can move it disregarding screen boundaries: a boon when using magnification or big fonts and the UI is designed by an idiot so that Apply - OK- Cancel are below the screen bottom.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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"The UI gets out of the way". "The user sees more of his content".
If it's all the cost of moving more functions into the main window caption, it's not an improvement.
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lets talk about Outlook.
Ctrl-F in any other office app, in any browser in almost anything else is FIND!
in outlook it is forward. Why the why?
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
modified 1-Apr-22 10:47am.
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The old one was really falling apart. Turns out the new one is made from some bizarre stretchy material that looks like leather but stretches up to two inches from its original length. I find it annoying because I would use the "cool, I'm on to the next notch on the belt" to measure my slimming down around the middle. Now with this stretchy belt, there's no fixed reference. And a scale is not a good measure of slimming down in the middle because much of the slimming down is the result of exercise and building muscle.
So, that's the big news in my world, lol.
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Maybe if you add some cooling mechanism it would not stretch that much anymore
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Stay away from any that claim to be "Top Grain". They have an extremely thin bit of leather glued to some artificial material.
The leather peels away in no time at all. 
Ed
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