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Thanks, I have a Pi 4 and a son who is at a lose end, I will get him to try this.
The slight issue is that if it not officially supported we cannot use it in the actual machine but I do appreciate the links.
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how about some of the PC104 rugged units, they should last quite a long time, many of them support windows 10
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I had not considered this form factor and it would probably future proof the machine.
Thanks very much for the suggestion!
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I had had a similar need. I really liked the Lenovo M75N IOT, but they have been difficult to get, so we've been using the Quieter2 from MeLE. It's about $260 from Amazon, has no moving parts, can run Windows 11 (it comes with a Windows 11 pro license, but I've installed Windows 10 Pro and it still activates). Getting the drivers for Windows 10 was a little annoying, but so far we've been really happy with how they've run. Because the storage is EMM, I would recommend getting a M.2 SSD and installing Windows on that, but it's probably not totally necessary. I have six of these currently running in an industrial application connected to a Touchscreen, barcode scanner, and a [Omron] PLC via a USB to Serial adaptor.
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Thanks very much  I like that Lenovo what a pity about the supply issue.
Your set-up is quite similar to my application, touchscreen, serial comms to the machine and Ethernet for firmware updates so your advice is spot on for me.
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I use a fanless ITX board with onboard processor with Win10 for Excel development and application maintaining: 4x2GHz and 8GB Ram with a used SSD. To keep it cheap I use a pico power supply - consider how much power you need. Here the sources from my notes (2019):
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Thanks very much, I had not considered that approach and it is serious food for thought! 
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Sounds like you can't play guitar ? maybe this could help (7)
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Earplug? 
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And YAUT nope
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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You've clearly never heard Herself torturing frets ... 
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No that's true - have you solved it yet ?
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No, the closest I've got is UKULELE but that doesn't really fit ... and even well played they are worse than a badly played guitar!
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What's the difference between a ukelele/banjo and a trampoline ?
you take your shoes off before you jump on a trampoline
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I tried PLUCK and STRUM, but missed that one entirely!
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YAUT
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I got away with naming our first cat "Microwave the cat in orange sauce" because it annoyed the neighbours and Herself was up for that.
But the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th were all Herself: Killashandra, Polgara, and Beldin. There are no prizes for guessing what books she was reading at the time.
The 5th came with a name: Bill.
The current is Dij because it was "short" for "Digital" - as a kitten he was either ON (and doing a Wall of Death round the room) or OFF (and you could have plucked all his fur out and he wouldn't have moved a muscle).
An ex boss was told in no uncertain terms that no computing terms were allowed for his dog's name: "Pip" was thought to be fine until a year later SWMBO discovered it was short for "Peripheral Interchange Program". Too late to change by then ...
Friends have had pets called "Glitch" and "Cookie" which have sneaked in under the radar.
But I never got away with "Five" (from "CAT 5") or "Script" from "Script Kitty".
What about you? Any Computer / software / tech related pets?
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My (programmer nerd) son's cat is pixel.
I've done sort of the opposite and named devices after pets.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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My Pixel (cat) is named after Heinlein's The Cat Who Walks Through Walls since she has a remarkable talent for suddenly appearing out of nowhere.
Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss.
Lazarus Long, "Time Enough For Love" by Robert A. Heinlein
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I think all cats have this ability.
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Do does your son's cat walk through walls?
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I name my cats after characters from books, movies and games.
My first one, when I was five years old, was Siepie, from the Dutch children's book Jip en Janneke[^].
After that, which is a 20+ year leap, comes Cid, who is still my parent's cat, and comes from the Final Fantasy series (but I based him on FFVII)[^].
After that I've had Nika, which was her name given to her by the shelter and which I kept because she listened to it.
Now I have Jiji, from Kiki's Delivery Service[^].
Not sure what the next one will be yet, but I've always liked Fizzgig from The Dark Crystal[^]
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