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Mircea Neacsu wrote: wireless
There's, indeed, your problem.
I can sympathize with the Corsair iCUE interface myself ('seems overly bedazzling and arrests CPU cycles at oddly ironic times) ... but it's the heavy duty braided USB cable attachment to USB (blue) that guarantees voltage and makes a ... closet full of M65 RGBs my go-to supply of input devices when a switch on an 'old' one goes south.
I even engrave them as they pass through my daily use pattern on their final leg to eternity standing on Saturns rings, audible, at rest in Valhalla.
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RedDk wrote: I can sympathize with the Corsair iCUE interface myself
Agreed. I bought a Corsair keyboard about a month ago. I actually use the backlighting, but its set to a constant medium blue color that makes it easier for me to see.
I wanted to program one key on the keyboard to enter a rather long password I use. Their software has no documentation, no list of which keys may be defined, and why you can't use modifier keys (shift/ctrl/alt/win) when defining keypresses. There's also no definition of the difference between "Key assignments" and "Hardware key assignments". The 'profiles' feature seems overkill, and the stupid thing switches from one to another uncontrollably.
I deleted all the profiles excepts a single one in the keyboard itself. I then convinced it to program the Scroll Lock to type the password... into Notepad. It wouldn't work in the app I needed it for. It wouldn't work in a command prompt window. It stopped working when I exited the iCue application. When I started the app up, it knew nothing about the definition I'd created.
When I submitted a problem report to Corsair, they referred me to a YouTube video by some gamer twit reviewing the keyboard. That was the extent of their customer support.
Don't get me wrong - it's a great piece of hardware. Good quality Cherry keyswitches, nice feel. One oddity is that the shift symbols are below the unshifted symbols on the keytops, instead of the reverse.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Corsair macro software is the best I've ever used. Out of the two. Because the other one BSoDs when any keystroke is used (saitek).
Seriously though, I am annoyed that I paid for the corsair keyboard with 18 extra programmable keys, and they only seem to work in notepad. And of course, there's no linux version.
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Thanks for the list Rick! It will take me some time to read all the reviews and try to decide on one.
As a side question, I've noticed you always/frequently have extensive lists of products or solutions for many questions. How do you manage to keep them organized? I can't seem to find the pencil I used yesterday 
Mircea
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Well I just go to the Slant site and ... search 
And when I see an interesting topic I often get carried away and add some recommendations of my own and wait to see if others think it is good.
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I have an old Logi M310 that's survived 10+ years. Not for gaming per se, but it's logged many hours doing so. If you have larger hands, it might be a bit uncomfortable for daily long term use, but otherwise the battery life is great, and it's cheap.
No fancy buttons or software to keep up with; just plug and go.
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I've also had a hell of a time with mice lately. Don't care for the one I have...generic lump of crap (I believe that's the brand name)...but I'm stuck with it for now, but definitely looking.
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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Here are some of the things I've found:
1. if you gets one without a rechargeable feature - like it takes AA batteries - it will last longer.
2. Cheap ones aren't very accurate, but also tend to be both hand friendly because the designers don't care about "ergonomics" - speaking as a lefty, I hate when they *do* care.
3. Bluetooth is a battery pig.
Edit: If you CAD at your desk you may consider getting a wired gaming mouse, and keeping cheap, long life one around for regular use. You can plug both into windows at the same time (or at least you used to be able to). It might not be the most ideal thing, but what you want (long life + accuracy) is hard to get because of all the radio traffic it requires.
Edit 2: Some mice have a charging docking bay that they just slide into. If you can find one that meets your requirements and has one of those, as long as you don't forget to dock it the battery life shouldn't be an issue.
Real programmers use butterflies
modified 16-Feb-22 14:08pm.
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honey the codewitch wrote: if you gets one without a rechargeable feature - like it takes AA batteries - it will last longer.
You are probably right but I don't see why. I used to put 2 NiMH rechargeables in my Microsoft mouse and they would last 6 months. Why the frigging LiIon-s can't do it.
honey the codewitch wrote: Cheap ones aren't very accurate
That's a problem. For any CAD work I need to be somewhere between 2000 and 5000 dpi if I want to work comfortably. Otherwise I need to zoom to tremendous scales to hit something.
Looks like I have to wait for the 22nd century for a decent mouse.
Edit:
honey the codewitch wrote: If you CAD at your desk you may consider getting a wired gaming mouse
Unfortunately it looks like that 
Mircea
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Refresh. I edited my previous reply a couple of times. Maybe what I added will help. 
Real programmers use butterflies
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Me too  Thanks for suggestions!
Mircea
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I second the idea of two mice. Keep the accurate mouse in reserve and it will outlive its drivers.
If you are using optical and need that level of resolution, then the surface/mousepad texture must make a huge difference.
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It is a possibility but changing mouse resolutions is unpleasant. I find it changes my eye to hand coordination.
For the moment I’m debating between using the Corsair as a corded mouse or throwing another 60$ or so on a Logitech G305.
Mircea
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Understood. I HATE using another person’s mouse because of preference differences, acceleration, etc. I see what you are saying.
Not a problem anymore because we always screen share due to covid even if we are sitting 3 meters apart!
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Have Logitech M215 mouse and K360 keyboard. amazing battery life and uses standard AA batteries
Standard batteries are the way to go. Mouse accuracy is very good. Uses Logitech wireless USB receiver for both mouse and keyboard
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Whatever you get, I recommend a laser sensor for precision movement. Optic sensors are ok but in my experience they have a very noticeable "dead zone" if you use very sensitive settings. I had a Corsair M60 Pro that was great for probably 5-6 years but then the right-click died a couple months back. I'm using a Logitech M500s now (had to find something local) which has been ok. The construction feels good (a nice stiffness to the clicks) but the sensor is dog-water at ~3000 dpi or higher. If you move the mouse a millimeter at a time from a dead stop as if you were carefully adjusting the cursor position, the cursor sometimes won't even move. You have to "snap" the mouse to kind of "wake up" the sensor before any fine movement.
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Jon McKee wrote: Whatever you get, I recommend a laser sensor for precision movement. Optic sensors are ok but in my experience they have a very noticeable "dead zone" if you use very sensitive settings.
That's what I used to know too. Seems however that these days special optical sensors are back in the game. Logitech calls them HERO or something. AFAIK Corsair has also an optical sensor and cannot complain about any lack of sensitivity. Maybe that's why it drains so much battery.
Mircea
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Interesting. I just looked it up and wow that HERO sensor is a leap. 25,600 max DPI? Who on Earth needs that? Pretty neat though, I wonder how they pulled that off and if it requires some special mouse-pad to reliably achieve that. 1ms polling rate too which surprises me. A lot of the optical mice (including my M500s) use the default 8ms which is... not as awful as people say but certainly noticeable.
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I would recommend an Evoluent mouse, even if it breaks all of your requirements 
Evoluent VerticalMouse Vertical Mouse ergonomic mouse ergonomic computer mouse carpal tunnel syndrome repetitive stress disorder RSI[^]
- Alternating is not necessary anymore, because the vertical position is not causing RSI - This mouse literally got me rid of the carpal tunnel syndrome I suffered from before using it.
- Resolution is higher than you will ever need, and I am the kind of guy doing pixel-precise screenshots.
- You can choose wireless, but I prefer hard wired for everything - a cable is reliable, and I have not had any problem with cables lying around on my desk.
- Cheap is expensive -> I bought my Evoluent mouse in ... 2005, it still works like a charm.
/edit: I must add that they had a wonderful customer support back then -> the hardware chip interpreting the scroll wheel signal bugged after about three years usage, and after I notified them about it, they ... sent me a brand new mouse from the US as a replacement with an apology for the problem ! Cannot judge whether this is still valid nowadays, since I experienced no problem with the mouse since then, but this was truly unexpected for an item out of warranty time 
modified 17-Feb-22 5:32am.
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You have my sympathy. I too have lost a lot of time/patience/hair to mice.
I have RSI and, from my experience, a good ambidextrous wireless mouse that is also not too expensive and durable is hard to find. I did not had any luck with that yet. My previous one did not last to the end of the warranty.
My solution, that I currently employ, is to have a mouse for all the fast work and a pen tablet for the precision work. And keep alternating between the two.
The mouse I use is a logitech mx master 3 (right hand only). I have it for a few months and haven't charged it since I bought it (November, I think). There is software to configure it in Linux if you need.
The pen tablet is a wired Wacom Bamboo Fun (CTE-650) but I think there were wireless versions back when I bought it (2007 maybe?!). Like the mouse, it has software to configure in Linux. Configuring the buttons on the tablet to zoom in/out makes life easier.
I can not say anything about the software for windows because I work only in Linux but it used to be good on windows 7 (for the pen tablet) and did not get on the way of work.
Regarding battery life, depending on what amount you refer to with "breaking the bank", there are wireless mice that have the charger in the mouse pad so, as long as the mouse is on top and almost centered on the mouse pad, it will charge even when you are using it. Probably you will not find one that is ambidextrous.
Good luck.
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Fun thing happened today.
My mouse batteries just died!!
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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Yeah, that must be fun! Doubly so when you have a deadline coming up
Mircea
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I might try it. Thanks for the tip.
Mircea
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