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Hello all,
An industrial software I pay the license for, will expire in 2 days.
Reactivating the product is automatic, but moving it to another computer / OS takes +/- 2 weeks (as it is a manual process which involves emails...).
This makes this weekend a good moment to upgrade to Windows 11.
In this case... is it good to update the current windows 10 installation or should I really make a fresh install of it?
Any experience with that?
Thank you all!
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As a rule, I prefer to upgrade O/Ses with a fresh install. That ensures that any incompatibilities with the old O/S don't affect me. It's also a good way to get rid of the junk that accumulates in any O/S over time - I only reinstall the software I need.
I don't know how this would affect the license for your software. Does the software rely on a license file present on the disk? In which case, upgrading the O/S may be the only option.
The manufacturers of the software should probably be able to advise you better.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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For me, the upgrade went smoothly, but attempts to do a clean install failed: the upgrade says my machine supports Win 11, the clean install says it doesn't ...
I may try again soon - I haven't for a couple of weeks.
I'd have to say though: from a user perspective it's not ready yet: the taskbar is feature poor compared to Win10, and not all the new stuff obeys the rules. For example the new Windows Explorer doesn't show the active app title bar in the right colour, and so. If I had the choice, I'd stay with Win 10 until SP1 (which is normally the first non-beta MS software version anyway...)
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Calling it Windows 11 is just marketing BS.
It is Windows 10.0.22000 - not even 10.1. Which makes sense as it is just a changes to the UI layer, teams being added as bloatware, WSL2 now running UI apps, and and a few other minor tings - nothing justifying much of a jump in version numbers. It is natural progression of features + "let's change the UI because... ehh.... let's change the UI".
So make your decision the same way as if it was Windows 10.
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Always clean start. Gives a chance to clean up those files and their n! backups I would never need again.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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I'm sure that you'll do this anyway, but it makes no harm to remind you (or anyone else ion the same position)
Whichever route you take ...
Backup first or clone existing setup to another disk.
I found W11 installed OK and, apart from a few foibles, is quite usable and I decided not to revert back to W10. Admittedly, this was on a brand new PC as I took the plunge to get a new one as the old one couldn't even take the last year's W10 updates (it had been a bare PC which I had installed W7 when it first came out).
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I got a new Dell laptop last week, and while it came with Win 10, it was also prepped for Win 11. I spent some time getting rid of the crapware first (wasn't too bad), before starting. Overall went well doing it this way.
Main advantage I think, was I didn't need to re-install those proprietary Dell drivers. Everything went pretty smoothly. So now working to install dev tools and current projects.
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So my rig died, and I'm going through the process of moving over files from it that I want to keep, deleting everything else. (I'm using a little widget that holds the old hard drive, making into in essence an external drive.) It seems that in Program Files / Common Files, there are some files there that won't let me delete, saying that I need permission from a "TrustedInstaller".
How do I get around this stupid restriction?
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When you're sure you've got everything you want (which is entirely another issue), nuke it (format with fill at the very least) or physically smash it.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Take ownership of the files on the drive. google has info on this.
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If you have everything you want, boot a live USB and mount it to delete stuff. I just drill 2 holes down through the housing and disks and put them in the electronic recycle bin.
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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swampwiz wrote: How do I get around this stupid restriction?
The stupid is there to protect you.
Apologize.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I had a support case with unexpected crash in a WPF app. Took ages to find out that the user had punched through all of this to replace a system DLL in the Windows System32 folder because his Flight Simulator would not work with the new version provided in Windows 10.
So we need even more stupid 
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Stupidity is never excusable. If anything, stupid shall not be placed in any significant role.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: If anything, stupid shall not be placed in any significant role
Like, say, government? 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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That was my source of inspiration, yes.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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If your level of paranoia is high enough, you might want to use DBAN boot CD before damaging the drive physically
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Remove the old drive and see if everything works. TrustedInstaller is the Windows service account for the Windows Update Servicing Stack. It shouldn't have it's grubby paws on any of your applications or data.
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(I was intrigued by the subject line, but didn't go through the actual message or thread until just now)
obermd wrote: It shouldn't have it's grubby paws on any of your applications or data.
Exactly. If you're backing up "your own" data, it shouldn't be in a folder that only the TrustedInstaller account has access to.
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"can you rename this method's internal variable name"?
To be fair, it's has its advantage, I can just rename the variable (who cares? not me anyway) and presto it looks like an animated code review all problems solved! while doing nothing strenuous or significant! 
In other news, while typing this, I got struck by a sneezing fit. When I raise my eyes to the screen again, Edge was offering to clean my browser history! Is that what my sneezing was about hey?! 
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I can sympathize with both sides. I had a coworker with a PhD in math who ended up doing programming for a living. Bright fellow and a nice guy but his variables were x1, y2, w1, t4, m3. Reading his code was murder. 
Mircea
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Good variable names!
Too bad Greek letters are not so easily available! 
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int η_μεταβλητή_μου = 12;
Luc Pattyn [My Articles]
The Windows 11 "taskbar" is disgusting. It should be at the left of the screen, with real icons, with text, progress, etc. They downgraded my developer PC to a bloody iPhone.
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yes, yes, unicode is fine to render but...
how do you type them (without hassle)?!
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Google to the rescue, in this case Google Translate.
Alternative: buy a Greek keyboard.
Even cheaper alternative: install a Greek language package and use a regular keyboard.
No hassle approach: use C:\Windows\system32\charmap.exe
...
Luc Pattyn [My Articles]
The Windows 11 "taskbar" is disgusting. It should be at the left of the screen, with real icons, with text, progress, etc. They downgraded my developer PC to a bloody iPhone.
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