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For reasons that I think are a bit long for this format, the notion of having free will requires a form of special pleading, even in the individual.

First, if we aren't every bit the automaton a gorilla is, for example, then where does that spark of free will - this radical inspiration - come from? This eventually gets you to the special pleading problem.

You imply free will is due to your ability to make choices. It's here I think you *might* be missing my point - how do you know someone else couldn't predict your choices given enough information about you? What I mean is, how "free" is that choice really? Were you already going to make it? I think you were. I think if I knew enough about any of us, I could tell you exactly what we would do under a given set of circumstances.

It could be that you're just easier to please than I am in the context of our understanding of what free will is. In case that's what's up, let me explain myself here. For me it's not enough to be able to make a choice. My cat makes the choice to bite me when he's dissatisfied with how I pet him. He doesn't have to do it - he does make the choice, and is much more likely to make it if he's already cranky. Big Grin | :-D - but that by itself does not lead me to the conclusion that my cat has free will.

Here's how I define free will:

If I could make a perfect copy of you, plunk you down in a parallel universe where everything is the same:

Free will would mean those two versions of you do not behave the exact same way in the exact same environment.

I believe they would.
Real programmers use butterflies

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