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Super Lloyd wrote: my W10 certainly runs very fine.. but it's powered by a monster modern CPU...
That's my problem with W10. All I really needed was XP + support for modern peripherals + better security (patches, bug fixes, etc.). I did not need all of the cruft that comes with Windows 10, and that requires the "monster modern CPU".
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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I still remember when you wrote: "What I really needed was DOS 6.22 + support for dishwashers and better security (padlock on floppy disks, etc.) ..."
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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Link and photo, or it didn't happen. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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My personal assertion is W10 does not need a monster CPU and is quite good... But, however, I cant be really sure...
However my CPU however is around a few percent everytime I look at it... so... I have a hard time it is a performance hog....
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wow. what cpu do you have? mine always goes up over time, mainly due to browsers. it returns when i restart it/them. and trying out Uno Platform recently my cpu went into the 70s and 80s (for the first time) and i had to reboot to get everything to calm down. i'm looking for something more heavy duty now. (it could just be a RAM issue. trying to figure out if my machine can take more. i always have a hard time getting info on that.)
Current: Intel Core i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz
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I got DDR4 memory, 16Gb, 512 SSD, and some Ryzen / AMD something cpu
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I still have XP on a hard drive, which I swap back into my laptop (replacing Win10) so I can use my HP Flat Bed scanner. As you say, MS drops support for old hardware, requiring me to revert to XP.
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Win10 is also the first Microsoft OS I think it is a step back (but for the One-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named, but I think nobody talks about it anymore).
What I utmost hate is the flat design and the redesign of the settings - To me a true step back.
Developers stop caring about resources years ago because they are cheap. So yes, you need the big monster modern PC to run anything.
A printer driver 4Gb ? A pdf reader 2Gb ? An ... OS 122 Gb ?
As you may know, I am the IT guy of my local school - Teachers are using interactive applications, which are sometimes nothing else than encapsulated HTML5 or pdf viewers; one of them is sucking up 220Gb of disk space (you read that well) and need more than 10Gb RAM to run. To merely DISPLAY things on the screen, and it is slow as hell.
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Rage wrote: ... the first Microsoft OS I think it is a step back (but for the One-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named, but I think nobody talks about it anymore).
So that'll be ... DOS 4.0?
Windows RT?
Windows NT?
Vista?
Win 8?
Am I warm yet? 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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... Vista ...
Dos 4.0 was awesome, I still miss WinNt to some extent, Win8 ? What is win8 
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DOS 4 was so buggy, IBM refused to install it on their PCs!
It used a load more of my precious 640K base memory, and crashed daily. And MS ignored all beta tester input as usual.
4.01 was OK .. but still not the multitasking OS MS had been promising us ... 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Windows ME is my vote for the worst ever version of Windows - I "upgraded" my then boss's new laptop from ME to Windows 98, and everything just worked better.
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My boss at the time (I became his boss a year or two later) bought a dual processor PC to run ME on in the hope of getting faster results from his PCB layout software.
ME only supports a single processor ... he wasn't happy.
Mind you, his layout software didn't work multithreaded even years later when he had an OS that supported multiple cores. 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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How about Windows Bob, that's got to be a top contender. Up until Windows 10 the normal Microsoft Tick/Tock was good/bad OS. That should have put Windows 10 as a fix for Windows 8, NOT! I just wish that rather than rounding the corners on things, they would actually fix things! It has been over a month since they broke my email, but at least it will have round corners? It's not the version of operating system I don't like, it's their constant breaking of their basic system that I'm tired of.
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as for the look itself..
I think it's like fashion, its core value is to be different from the few guy just before.. hate or love it.. Both are valid.. and it's not really for me a selling point either way..
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This is sooo true. Look at where Linux distros have gone. It used to be that you could install a linux flavor on anything older and it would work. Now alot of them require almost as much memory and harddrive space as windows.
Dev's don't care anymore about space other than honey. because space and CPU power are cheap at the moment comparatively.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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I would venture to say that Windows 8 was the "first" step backward... I can't stand Windows 10. The flat design kills me, the plethora of extra processes just to maintain a functional OS is crazy. While I did recently build a Windows 10 machine for myself, since I know that eventually, I will require it, my primary workstation is still a Windows 7 64 bit machine with 32Gb of RAM and a bunch of SSDs in a few RAID configurations. That said, my home networks are well fire-walled, in fact, friends/guests/visitors that require WIFI access get an entirely different router and and gateway. All of my development/testing/work resources are on a separate network from the rest of my home, so as long as I don't do something terribly stupid, the lack of new security updates is not of too much concern to me. If it ever gets to the point that I can't run all of the development tools that I require on W7 64 bit, then I will bite the bullet and transition to the Windows 10 box, but until such a time, Windows 7 still rocks!
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Yep, Windows 8 got me started looking seriously at Linux and BSD as alternatives to Windows. I now run MX Linux as my main OS and only boot to Windows 10 for gaming and the occasional photo editing session (I dislike Gimp!). I'd probably be running BSD as my main OS if it had better support for modern hardware.
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Even though the author ask about your experience with Windows XP
I agree with K Personett Windows 7 is the product that MS should have enhanced
and not over engineered I can only make this statement based on past experience
with MS OS's namely Windows 95 Windows XP and the nightmare of Windows ME
My experience with Windows ME taught me to READ what other professionals
thought about a new OS before I blindly upgraded because it was NEW and IMPROVED
My biggest complaint was when Microsoft and I had a go around about my copy of
Microsoft Office 2003 which I purchased on a DVD They refused to let me install
it on a new Widows 7 64 bit machine and accused me of trying to install pirated
software after numerous complaint emails to Bill Gates I did not believe someone
from MS contacted me and said the problem was fixed
Final thought FWIW New is nice if it includes Improvements with out
BLOAT and maintains backward comparability with high priced MS Software
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Windows 7 was the natural evolution of Windows XP. I still use Windows XP virtual machines for running tons of JScripts that mimic xml-http clients that interact with the server products I write/maintain. I use 32 bit XP VMs mainly because the memory requirements are low and it runs well in a sandbox under Hyper-V. I still have some 64 bit XP installations backed up, but no need to run them any more due to the limited usage I require.
I don't do any PC based gaming. I spend enough time on computers while working.
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For my Money the best version of Windows, the 'embedded' version XPe worked nearly every time even if the board had damage if it could. The desktop version aside from the odd BLue Screen was stable, all was right with the world 
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XP is super for me. Once a year. I run it in a VM to print my Christmas card labels in Visual Foxpro. Then, I shut it down for a year.
10 is fine, runs faster because it is on much faster hardware. I can still run my Office 2000 on it (except LookOut)
I think my favorite was 2K.
None are my main OS. All via VM. Whatever works, works 
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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I thought 7 was a definite improvement over XP. I don't want to have to learn enough to be qualified for tech support. But XP sometimes required that, whereas 7 rarely did. So I also didn't think 10 was much of an improvement on 7.
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Super Lloyd wrote: First I have to admit I am a Microsoft apologist
Perhaps the best response possible to your own post.
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I hardly used XP at all...just for testing. There was no need to move from 2K which I used until Win7. As for Win10, the only complaint I can think of is the forced updates/restarts.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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