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Get the EU to have a stake in keeping the plant running[^] instead of lawsuits to against them to subsidize their expenses.
I do hope, if this goes through, that the US doesn't kick in money to build the plant unless it's to be built in the US. I mean, really, do you think the EU would kick in to subsidize building a plant in the US.
A subsidy is not an investment with a return; just a give-away: the jobs will be in the EU, and surely the VAT - so it's pretty clear who's benefiting from the site location.
Now, some good fallout from such a project would be putting Asia (China) on notice that the west really is pulling out of being held by the short-hairs for, well, just about everything.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: A subsidy is not an investment with a return
In theory it is; doesn't have to be a monetary return, but it should have some measurable benefit, like lower crime rates or similar.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: just a give-away
Yeah, that's how it goes in practice 
But it's not real money we giving, it's fiat, and there's a lot more where that's coming from. According to our economists, breaking a window is a gift for the economy, especially if you wounded in the process.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: the jobs will be in the EU, and surely the VAT
If in the Netherlands, they'll hardly be taxed. Because "jobs", and if we no tax-haven, those jobs go somewhere else. So, we a tax-paradise for those kind of companies.
No, not much jobs; they put their headquarters here for taxes, and the real plants somewhere else.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: Now, some good fallout from such a project would be putting Asia (China) on notice that the west really is pulling out of being held by the short-hairs for, well, just about everything.
Yeah, well, we subsidize China, since it is a third world country, according to definitions.
The world gone tiktok, and the tiktok generation is next in line to rule on the world stage. You know, from the series "a tiktokker drank 50 liters of water, this happened to his brain" 
Man, it'll be fun to see them with the power of our nukes.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Man, it'll be fun to see them with the power of our nukes.
I guess it's never too late for schadenfreude.
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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine
Can't even explain how dire it is; I just sound like an old man explaining to youth how it used to be better in our time, when we had to walk 50 kilometers through snow, hunted by wolves.
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Your inferences from this article are even more confused than your usual.
1) Intel's EU and US "initiatives" to seek subsidies are completely separate: the inference the US would even consider subsidizing a plant in the EU is lunacy.
2) both US and EU may view in-country major chip fabs and capacity as a strategic (military, economic) investment given global geo-politics (read: ascendency of China; danger of chip shortages). That's the big carrot Intel is trying to dangle.
I find the omission of any mention of Russia in the article: interesting.
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BillWoodruff wrote: Your inferences from this article are even more confused than your usual.
You worked way too hard for this comment.
The point I find most interesting is yet to be seen: will the EU find fine Intel, down the road, with some sort of anti-trust accusation as punishment (read that EU money-mining) for being more successful than their own companies?
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Dordeduh - Descânt[^]
Dordeduh is a folk influenced black metal band from Romania.
The musicians come from another Romanian folk metal band, Negura Bunget, but I find Dordeduh is the better of the two.
Their (relative) hit single, Dojana, was just folk music with traditional instruments, no metal in sight.
So anyway, earlier this year I was wondering if Dordeduh would ever release a new album.
It was kind of a coincidence that I thought about them as I liked their previous (debut) album, but it's not a favorite or anything (except Dojana, which was also SOTW at the time).
And suddenly, they announced a new album.
So far they've released three new songs of the upcoming album and this is one of them.
Took a little getting used to, but it's pretty amazing.
Looking forward to the album (and hopefully they'll do a Dojana part 2 as well)
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Ok, so that one took me by surprise because I totally misread your post (I kind of skimmed it), and I thought that Dordeduh was only doing folk music.
I just finished The Warning's Lunario concert (again) when you posted your SotW and was tossing up whether to listen to it now or later. Glad I played it.
For other SotW listeners, play it with Closed Captions on.
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yacCarsten wrote: The Warning's Lunario
Had to Google it, but I recognized the three young ladies from earlier SOTW's (years ago).
yacCarsten wrote: For other SotW listeners, play it with Closed Captions on.
Nice tip 
You can read the English lyrics in the description as well 
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Sander Rossel wrote: ...and this is one of them.
Sounds very satanic.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
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Nice ... Great vocals, some parts made me think about Katatonia, great stuff ...
BR,
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Attack on street humour perhaps? (9)
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Onslaught ?
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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... unless somebody complains that ONSLAUGHT is obsolete English, of course ...
Well done - you are up Monday! 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I often use the word
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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When I watch things like that, I tell myself I'm so not that intelligent. 
These people were extraordinary.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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I'm sure you noticed but there are two parts to it - people like this guy are what I call propellor heads
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Verbing nouns weirds the language[^] "Nouning" verbs is just as distasteful if not more so.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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What's your point Rick ?
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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To watch (a programme) ==> watch is a verb
An interesting "watch" ==> watch is a noun
The original meaning of watch in this context was a verb, therefore using it as a noun is a grammatical abomination.
Watch does have other meanings as a noun (e.g. keeping a close watch, the night watch), but in the general case I find myself agreeing with Rick.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Ok, but my post was intended to alert people to an interesting programme, but I see I've caught the eye of the grammar Nazis
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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pkfox wrote: the grammar Nazis
Just don't mention the War!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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And a salesman asked me "How do you think we keep the cars so shiny?"
I said "Polish?"
And he said "I'm sorry sir, jak myślisz, jak utrzymujemy samochody tak błyszczące?"
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Polish jokes.
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