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My message below (reply to '007' notwithstanding), I think I may have mis-spelled "Oi".
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Nothing I'm aware of - I just thought I'd give him something to have a more visual emphasis when our view points don't quite mesh.
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Thing is, it works just as well when replacing email and send with post.
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Greg Utas wrote: replacing email and send with post.
At his point, I believe I'm obligated to respond with "Duh !"
(Our Brave Captain, Mr Maunder, no doubt has the capability to make that leap in it's implication)
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I've no doubt that Mr Maunder could make that leap.
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alternative translation by Robert Graves and Ali-Shah:
What we shall be is written, and we are so.
Heedless of God or Evil, pen, write on!
By the first day all futures were decided
for a compelling take-down of both the Fitzgerald and Graves/Shah fabrications of Omar Khayyam's (Ghiyath al-Din Abu'l-Fath Umar ibn Ibrahim Al-Nisaburi al-Khayyami) oeuvre into stanzaic westernized form: [^]
to go (much) deeper into the Rubaiyat and its world-wide impact: [^]
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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Just a perspective.
First - an intro - Mrs Wife will worry when watching a movie about who's playing the parts and may even watch one because of who's in it. I, on the other hand, couldn't care less. If I recognize them as they play their parts (rather than seeing the character they portray) their acting, by definition, is poor. I watch the movies as their own reality.
Going back to your post - I appreciate it - but the finesse with which you see it is peripheral to my selection. Yet, on the other hand, it has grabbed my interest. Some other Quatrains I like must now be explored for alternate translations. Thumbs up to you.
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As to your Wife: well, that's between you and her 
Perhaps I should have mentioned my intense respect, and admiration, for Sufi diwans/ghazals poetry/literature, and the synthesis of science and mysticism found in the lives and work of remarkable polymaths like Khayyam in high-culture medieval Islam.
As a poet (for 56+ years), I never lose the sense of paradoxical rapture I experience reading Rumi, Attar, and others, because of my limited, very imperfect, knowledge of "facts on the ground." At the same time, I am aware of the impossibility of knowing Rumi's thoughts and feeling in the context of his times.
And, the western popularity of Rumi and others is of, course, based on a re-interpretation too often with its Islamic devotional matrix stripped away: [^].
When fat-and-jolly Coleman Barks (who can't read medieval Persian, Urdu, etc.) makes videos of himself reading his "translations" of Rumi with Iranian musicians sitting at his feet, I want to puke,
The ghazal tradition and its mystical fervor, brought back by crusade-returning warriors into France and Germany, sparks the birth of western romantic poetry, and its cult-of-courtly-love pathos for the never attainable Beloved.
That tradition has never died, and modern poets like Shahid Ali (now deceased) bring it to life in English: [^].
If some Ifrit (evil spirit) possessed me, and, demanded my take on verse #51 to release me, I might try:
a feather floats down, a poet seizes it,
uses it as a quill to write a fiction
he believes is his life: then,
the feather floats away, unstained
Could my lie buy my freedom from a liar 
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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BillWoodruff wrote: As a poet (for 56+ years),
We are, all of us, poets.
Some struggle to rhyme their way with that of another.
Others are content to exclaim their verse to the sky
Or sing their songs with the sea.
Or be content - their verse is to but listen
And to see the poetry around them.
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Most people like their music bass-boosted, but it just seems like too much treble.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I'll note that this thought may strike a chord with some key people, others may waltz around believing that it falls flat, and doesn't scale new heights.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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You people are sick, sick in the head. The tenor of your alto egos is too much. 
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I coda stopped, but that's not my forte.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
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"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Give it a rest!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Bass boosting? It’s hardly any treble at all!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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I won't polka hole in that claim as it's a reel problem. I'll Gibson thought to it - stay tuned!
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Don't be coy; but if you carp on about it, we might knock you off your perch.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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That sounds a bit fishy...
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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He’s just trawling us.
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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As we flounder through this thread I need to ask you: How fishy? On a scale of 1 to 10.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: On a scale of 1 to 10.
Numbers? Holy mackerel! Schooling is now required in this thread?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
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No, it's just a Red Herring!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Whew..Thank Cod!
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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