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We do not fault dogs for acting like dogs. We intervene and train them patiently and consistently.
Same with junior programmers. They have likely learned the basics through college or other training, but there is so much to learn in the real world. That is why those of us who are team leads and software engineering managers have a responsibility to mentor. Every code review is an opportunity to train. Whomever was leading this project should have managed it so as to keep this from getting out of hand. Topics like SOLID are principles, not laws. It takes engineering expertise, which can be taught, to know how to implement those principles for any given project.
Of course, sometimes a team lead is not given the authority to mentor and manage projects, which can lead to this kind of thing. An old adage that is true in any time frame, is this set of illustrative equations:
Responsibility + Authority = Success
Responsibility - Authority = Failure
It is unfortunate that junior programmers were allowed to roam free. Same when non-engineers manage software projects. Bad things happen. 
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Have you worked for insurance companies too?
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That's funny!  Programming these days is so complicated. School doesn't prepare you for the real world.
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Patterns. Granularity. Just missing generics.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Errr. That's on you.
Don't expect a junior to have a clue.
Be a mentor, not an after the fact critic.
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mattyltaylor wrote: Be a mentor, not an after the fact critic.
Oh, I am very much a mentor. Unfortunately I and my team are picking up this project having no knowledge of it until, well, now. So the damage was done a while ago.
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Which is correct?
Egg Storage[^]
I am sooo totally a B person myself. And you put the carton in so the eggs are in the side closest to the person. So when you grab them they aren’t over balanced away from you and onto the floor.
I dislike A intensely. and I really do not know why.
My family is just wrong though. They don’t have a system. Grab them out of the middle half the time.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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You raised a very interesting and extremely controversial topic right there!  
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Yes! It kind of reminds me of the "big endian / little endian" argument in the mythical Lilliput!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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rnbergren wrote: Which is correct?
I'm a D (Don't Care) person, it's all the same to me.rnbergren wrote: I dislike A intensely. and I really do not know why.
Symmetrophobia?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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Take it to the Soapbox!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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HE can't - he'll have to take it to the Eggbox ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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What kind of crack was that? Not much of a yoke, for sure.
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I wasn't joking: I was thinking inside the box.
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yes, if you think outside the box all the eggs end up cracked. and that is no yolk folks.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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A-sort of. I would line up the two rows of eggs, not liking the "wings" on there.
Reason: it doesn't matter which direction the carton is put back in the fridge; the center of gravity will always be close to the middle so the balance is predictable.
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A.
Everything else is psychopath territory.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Use a smaller eggbox: 6 eggs makes it more manageable. 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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with a son who eats a ton of eggs. I have the 18pack carton usually. That is even more of an issue.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Here's hoping you don't live in Chicago: "The Windy City" 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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A girlfriend (a long time ago) used to empty her eggs into a Tupperware box - not an egg box, just a rectangular tub - so they all just rolled around whenever you moved the box. I think this ended the relationship... umm, perhaps there were other factors, but this was definitely one of them!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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rnbergren wrote: And you put the carton in so the eggs are in the side closest to the person.
Doable only if you always take the egg furthest from you - extra work.
But the real question is about you:
Are your a citizen of Lilliput or Blefuscu?
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only extra work at first. Towards the end when you have less energy it is easier and less work.
I honestly am not sure which I would be? It would be an accident of birth either way. and I don't think at 12" high I could swim the channel between.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Eggs unloaded 6-at-a-time into the built-in egg receptacles in the fridge door. Though of course I'm being controversial in storing them in the fridge at all. Not so much for coolness, more for safety. Egg storage has been an issue recently after SWMBO accidentally ordered TWO boxes of 15 (we normally order 2 boxes of 6 per week; she was ordering extra on purpose, but meant to get 1x15 not 2x15.) One of the risks of online shopping!
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rnbergren wrote: am sooo totally a B person myself. And you put the carton in so the eggs are in the side closest to the person. So when you grab them they aren’t over balanced away from you and onto the floor.
Eggactly! 
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