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W∴ Balboos, GHB8-Apr-21 2:57

W∴ Balboos, GHB

8-Apr-21 2:57

Option 2:

First, it's a bit too late this time, since you already bought that unexpectedly troublesome monitor (i.e., it doesn't play well with others). However, for next time.

Buy, instead, a huge TV and use it as the monitor. You can open a large number of windows on it, each sized sufficiently large to be as if their own monitor. Not much different than what you have, except for one thing: the aspect ratio.

With a standard aspect ratio the remote sessions will go smoothly. You can size each of your windows to full screen, as needed, and that's what they'll see if it's on top. At the same time, when not involved with others, you can enjoy that huge territory: just partially stacked instead of spread horizontally. Probably more in your field of view (if you're monitoring for something like a new email) and yet easy to concentrate on the center of your attention.

I generally do not buy "the latest and the greatest" - but rather, tend towards the "sweet spot" that is used by the most users. First, of course, it's cheaper as they're trying to unload it so the newer stuff takes its place. It also, "coincidentally", makes my view compatible with almost everyone else. Even back when buying my first PC, where I did buy into "new", as in 8-bit VGA, the system perfectly emulated EGA and even CGA (as almost everyone on earth had if they had a PC) - yet, when the VGA stuff became available I could avoid buying into an upgrade (new vid card, new monitor). Basically, with this philosophy, I rarely need to replace anything until it wears out (or re-design an interface because no one else sees what I do).

It may be good business sense to buy very mundane equipment (unless you're a game-developer) and avoid client problems before they happen.

Maybe you can trade that new monitor in on an 80" TV ?

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kholsinger8-Apr-21 5:27

kholsinger

8-Apr-21 5:27

Something to consider: use "OBS" or another virtual camera. (https://obsproject.com/

OBS has the advantage of being free. It has the disadvantage of being potentially far more flexible (complex) than you want/need.

I did a quick test and could set up a "scene" with the desktop as the source. Then I applied a "Crop/Pad" filter to select a portion of the screen. You could select a 1024x768 window, for example.

Then you start the OBS Virtual Camera, and tell Teams to use that camera.

You can have a second "scene" with your webcam and no desktop. Or you can have the webcam layered on top of the desktop. Or an image file with your corporate logo layered on the desktop in one corner, your webcam in another.....

Kevin

Jan R Hansen11-Apr-21 1:21

Jan R Hansen

11-Apr-21 1:21

Thanks!

I followed you example, and apart from having to right-click on the display capture source and select transform->fit to screen, it works just fine. Sort of. Because it appears that the transformation from a 2560x1440 area to a 1920x1080 (base canvas resolution and output scaled resolution under settings>video) makes text hard to read. I haven't yet tried to change to a 1:1 base/output resolution of 2560x1440, but that might fix it. Are you familiar with OBS and would you be able to provide a hint in that area?

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kholsinger12-Apr-21 6:39

kholsinger

12-Apr-21 6:39

I'm definitely no expert with OBS. I've only used it a handful of times, actually. My guess is that OBS itself would work better by changing the otuput resolution to match your actual screen, but then who knows what Teams will do when displaying it at the other end with lower resolution.

Would it work to share a 1920x1080 portion of your screen to an OBS output of that size? It seems that would be 1:1 at your end and require less adjustment by Teams at the other -- if the person watching has Teams full-screen, at least....

This reminds me of audio recordings where the mastering engineer tries to make it sound good on everything from cheap earphones to high-end speakers. You likely have no control over the viewer's screen size. You can reduce the odds of odd pixel effects by using fewer pixels at your end, but not to the extent that you don't have enough pixels, either. Analog signals have their advantages (says the geezer) Smile | :)

jkirkerx8-Apr-21 6:12

jkirkerx

8-Apr-21 6:12

I almost bought that huge Dell curved monitor, and ran it by a friend first. He warned me of that issue so I bought 2 Dell 27" monitors last month and added a 3rd 24" monitor so I can make sure my apps don't get too large. Would of been nice to have that curved beast, but it is a beast and has it's drawbacks.

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deloford8-Apr-21 10:02

deloford

8-Apr-21 10:02

I have an Ultra Wide.

I either share a single application or ask users to Zoom in which they can do easily with CTRL mousewheel or on a touch screen pinch to zoom.

If you were really desperate you could RDP to a box and set the RDP window to a 1080P ratio.

webatxcent10-Apr-21 10:35

webatxcent

10-Apr-21 10:35

I still use two 24" 1920 x 1080 in my environment, primarily because my sight is not as good as what it once was. However several team members have upgraded their video equipment. One has a 55" 4K monitor, and one has a 40" 4K monitor.

When they screen share, I take responsibility as the viewer to zoom in on my end, and pan around as needed to see specifically what they are looking at.

Make your meeting attendees aware that they can do that and put the responsibility on them.

Bill Butler
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jschell17-Apr-21 6:31

jschell

17-Apr-21 6:31

There are any number of things that don't work with just one screen.

For example when you full screen a video or image.

For my home set up, games often take up one monitor and the other monitor allows me to pull up hints, etc on the other. One might think that hotswapping is an option in that case but quite a few games do not work well with that. And even hotswapping does not work when one is trying to follow a less than ideal map on the second screen.

Another problem with only one screen is when that screen dies. Not only can you see nothing but have no way to test that it is actually the screen is the problem. With a second screen you can swap to check cables and video ports. (I have had a cable die which is completely hidden, is never manipulated and never touched, which was a surprise to me.)

Larger monitors are harder to physically manage. It is not just the weight but the bulkiness. So if you need to re-organize, move etc it becomes harder. And of course back to the problem above, if you happen to drop that single monitor when doing that you are back to no monitor at all. Naturally if you have multiple setups in the house this is less of a problem but it still depends on that and it still requires manhandling a monitor from another location.

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pkfox6-Apr-21 22:04

6-Apr-21 22:04

Impugn to have initiative (8)

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OriginalGriff6-Apr-21 22:40

6-Apr-21 22:40

I see what you did there! Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

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pkfox6-Apr-21 22:45

6-Apr-21 22:45

Remembered Big Grin | :-D

"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

OriginalGriff6-Apr-21 22:51

6-Apr-21 22:51

If it's not solved by .. blah, blah ...
I suspect it will though!

pkfox6-Apr-21 23:08

6-Apr-21 23:08

Yeah I thought it would've gone by now - how are you feeling now ?

"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

OriginalGriff6-Apr-21 23:21

6-Apr-21 23:21

Fine. Last symptoms (pain and heat at the injection site) faded out after a week, so way, way better than getting the full thing! Big Grin | :-D

pkfox6-Apr-21 23:25

6-Apr-21 23:25

Good to hear - hopefully the second jab will be drama free - all I had was a dull ache in the injection site and a heavy feeling in my arm.

"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

OriginalGriff6-Apr-21 23:32

6-Apr-21 23:32

Would be good - but this time I'll plan for the worst and hopefully get an easy ride.
Herself had an easy time with both hew jabs.

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter6-Apr-21 23:35

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

6-Apr-21 23:35

I have learned two new words today - to forgot them in no time...
Wonder if those are words in use really...

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Greg Utas7-Apr-21 0:00

Greg Utas

7-Apr-21 0:00

You should have taken it! Yes, both words are in use, but not that often in my experience.

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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter7-Apr-21 0:33

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

7-Apr-21 0:33

I did not knew the words - understood the clue and solved it using anagram solver (online)... So probably not the most acceptable way to participate... No to mention that I try to avoid creating the clues as much as I can hold me back... Big Grin | :-D

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Greg Utas6-Apr-21 23:59

Greg Utas

6-Apr-21 23:59

impugn to         (anag)
have initiative   (def)
gumption

Another one with no indicator. Is it then assumed to be an anagram? I don't know all the conventions for these.

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pkfox7-Apr-21 0:15

7-Apr-21 0:15

Have would be the assumed indicator - you are up.. Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

Edit
Impugn to give initiative (8)

would have been better

"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

modified 7-Apr-21 8:24am.