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Thanks. with Windows10 taking soooo long to load (at leas on the machines I have, that is a consideration.
Speed Kills. (Football proverb.)
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I put a 1TB m2 SSD in my ageing ASRock Z97 mobo and the difference in performance was astonishing. Boot time dropped from several minutes to a few seconds. Everything starts quickly - even LR feels useable. Did a similar drive swap in my other half's ageing Mac Pro 5,1 and she can't believe the performance step up.
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Thanks. That is confirmation I needed.
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If you go for the M.2 PCIe SSDs (and I would)
Additionally make sure that they are cooled down well... they cut the high spees due to temperature.
So of you are going to do ML or heavy DB jobs... I recommend you to have a look to Kühlkörper IcyBox SSD M.2 IB-M2HSF-703: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubehör[^] (sorry, german amazon) or something similar... at least the one small, if there is place enough I would get the tower fan.
There are some benchmarks that the 16 mm is already enough to make a copy of 800 GB data at once, without permormance issues.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yes. I was looking at the M.2 PCIe SSD's and was unaware of the heat issue.
Thanks for the information.
The devil is always in the details.
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I bought a Mantis setup from "Computer Upgrade King" and I'm really happy with it..
It's basically a gaming rig but without the graphics card, so it has a wonderful Ryzen 7 8 core in it, w/ 32GB of RAM and a 2TB NVMe stick (though it shipped with 512GB and a 3TB HDD)
I spent about $1200 for it on amazon, not including tax.
I like buying base gaming rigs because they typically have decent quality power supplies and motherboards, good chipsets, plenty of ram and a nice CPU - everything i could want in a quality workstation.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Once you pick out a motherboard, download the user's manual and see if they have a list of compatible memory brands/models. Some boards are picky about the memory.
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I just got delivery of some parts to do my next budget build:
CPU+GPU - AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G, the G version has the GPU built into the CPU, did this because GPUs are very expensive right now. This is a nice CPU, but you have to order it from South Korea because it's OEM only.
Motherboard - MSI A520M-A Pro, this board specifically supports the above CPU, has HDMI and DVI out on the board, and is low cost. I've had good experiences with MSI. Boards don't fail after 5 years like some other brands I've had. The A520M Pro (no -A) has HDMI and Display Port out on the back, but Display port cables cost extra.
RAM - 16GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3200 16GB kit (2x8GB), "Engineered for the latest AMD platform"
SDD - Crucial P2 NVMe M2 1TB, it also comes in 2TB form. P2 is more reliable than the P1, but I've only got good things to say about Crucial in general.
Case - Thermaltake Versa H15 with 450W power supply, more than enough power for this build. I have 3 of these cases already, this makes the 4th, good for a neat build. Front panel ports are on top so you don't knock USB or audio peripherals out when you walk past.
2 x 32" 2560 x 1440 monitor with a BOE IPS panel (various brands, I have a Kogan). I love these BOE panels, great color, nice even brightness, supports freesync, and I run at 125% desktop scaling so everything is big and smooth, just the way my old eyes like it.
I haven't built it yet, I'm expecting it to be flawless.
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Not sure what you are going to do with it at work, e.g. will you compile lots of source files?
I can tell you the specs of my system:
Case: Fractal Design Focus G Blue
Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5950x
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030
SSD: Adata SX8200PNP, 2TB
with Icy box cooler: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B077MRDK16
HDD: Seagate ST2000DM008-2FR102
RAM: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout, 64 GB
CPU Cooler: Noctua nh-d15 se-am4
The middle fan is original Noctua, the outer fan is 120 mm Arctic (F12 PWM PST), since original doesn't fit...
Case fans: ARCTIC F14 PWM PST
Large RAM limits the need for swap file, so this reduces wear of SSD.
Obviously, my system is not a gaming rig, but it still allows CUDA development (device capability 6).
For SSD I read you pay a premium for the fastest, but hardly will notice the difference. So I opted for a cheaper 2TB instead of 'the best' 1TB. WD Black SN 750 is a fast alternative.
The RAM is a compromise also. It is 3600 MHz, but not the best timings. However, normally instructions and data should be in L1, L2 or L3 cache.
The system is very quiet and CPU temps are usually around 31 degrees Celcius, fans rotating around 500-600 RPM.
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Thank you. I will check those products out.
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I’m not heavily into hardware, so until recently had usually bought a speced-out PC from one of the big suppliers to avoid any mismatched components.
Recently, though, I found an article by SO employee that outlined their standard setup. This is from a couple of years ago, so things have changed, I’m sure. But my build - based on this with a few adjustments - is working great.
Nick Craver desktop build
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events.
- Manly P. Hall
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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Thanks for the referral.
See Mark's signature above. Could no agree more. I blame the Physicists.
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I just built myself a new work machine just last summer (during the lockdown, but at the start of the chip shortage). Availability of some parts are ridiculous and the prices are worse.
I went from 6 year old Intel I-7 Quad core to Ryzen 5 2600 Hex-Core and it is like going from black and white to full color.
Save yourself a lot of time, go to pcpartpicker.com, they help you match the components to the architecture, case, power supply, etc. and they even help you find the prices and availability.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/[^]
Shocked that no-one mentioned PC Part Picker? It's great and can warn you about incompatibilities and allows you to create multiple builds and compare them. Also gives price history and comparison of various sites for purchasing.
Has build guides for every budget and purpose.
Check it out.
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thanks. Will check it out.
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I'd consider posting what kind of work you plan to do with the Computer. People are basically telling you how to build a low-end gaming computer here. If it's graphics modelling or something like that then sure get a good system, but if it's more about spreadsheets and wordprocessing then you barely even need a graphics card, especially since many motherboards have a builtin graphics processor now. So, if it's the latter option just pick a motherboard that is compatible with the devices you want and make sure it can support a faster CPU than you are getting, about twice as much ram as you want; this allows you to update the system later as needed without having to buy a new computer right away, that can save you a lot of money in the long run.
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Ken, thanks for the reply. I do desktop applications with VS2015 and VS2017. Also, a very plain ecommerce website.
I am using MS Sql Server as a database.
I did purchase a motherboard with onboard video, with all of the other components, some recommended above, and some not. I came in at a shade under $800.00, including tax and shipping. They are supposed to start arriving tomorrow.
Hopefully, all of the components work together.
I appreciate you, and all of the others who replied with comments and advice.
She who must be obeyed will blow a gasket. But to paraphrase Robin Williams, "F*** her if she can't take a joke.
Wear a mask, please.
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Cool, sounds like you have it all covered. Good luck with getting everything together  If you do have any problems don't hesitate to mention it here, lots of people can help.
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Check out the list of cars that Dominos provides to let them know which vehicle you are going to show up in for car-side delivery. https://i.stack.imgur.com/C9iP0.png[^]
Maybe you only drive your Bentley or Ferrari, but I always take the Bugatti, when I go to pick up a pizza. 
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The list has probably been outsourced to a site for researching car prices, but it's amusing nonetheless.
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Does the "Preferred Location" option include "In the trunk" so kidnap victims can be fed?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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What? No Allard or Alvis? Shocking! Still, I'm sure they'll have Frazer Nash further down the list...
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Konigsegg is surely down there too.
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So if you have no clue (or care not) what car do you driving (except taht it is white) you can not order pizza at Domino's?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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While I fully appreciate the fact that not everyone is a gear-head...for most people a car represents a major investment, even if you're just leasing. If you've made such a major investment and can't even name the make and model of your own car...then yeah, as far as I'm concerned, you can go without pizza.
But then, this is Domino's we're talking about. Not much of a punishment.
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