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Thank you. That is helpful.
Can't think of anything pithy to say here.
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Thanks, I'll check it out
Still Can't think of anything pithy to say here.
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I built a new computer about 6 months before the pandemic and I've been very happy with it.
Here's what my build looked like.
I bought everything at our local MicroCenter.
Actually this is the first build, but I had a bad component and returned everything easily to MicroCenter and then bought a slightly different Gigabyte Mainboard that included wifi.
I highly suggest the Gigabyte Mainboards with the built-in m2 drive slots -- very fast.
MainBoard - GIGABYTE B450M DS3H AM4 1 42.99
CPU - Ryzen Chip (6core with threads x2 12 Cores) AMD RYZEN 5 2600X WRAITHS[^] 139.99
16GB RAM - 348201 IPSG 16GB 2X8GB DDR4 3200 KIT 1 77.99
Power supply - 976076 CORSAIR CXM 650W 80+B SM PSU 1 69.99 69.99
Basic Case - 719427 CORSAIR SPEC02 REDSHIFT ATX CASE 1 69.99 69.99
M2 drive - 748939 SAMSUNG E 500GB 970EVO NVME M.2 SSD 1 79.99
GEForce GTX 1660 video card (purchased from a friend )
I ran dual-boot Win10 / Ubuntu until I discovered (after 30 years of Windows use) that I like Ubuntu better now than windows. Now I'm all Ubuntu over there. but I also have a laptop running an R7 and Windows 10.
Good luck
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Very helpful. Why did you go Ryzen instead of Intel? Cost, Performance or both?
Can't think of anything pithy to say here. Either.
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Yes, as they say about Intel...
In the past: Double the price for the same performance.
Now: Double the price for half the performance.
Plus at the time Intel was having problems[^] with that hack that made them turn some options off on their chip which made them slower and AMD doesn't have that issue.
Ryzen was much less $ for actually better performance.
I do a bit of Android Development (and along with that you need a special virtualization feature on the chip to run the Android emulator) and I was a bit worried about that but tested on my son's machine that had Ryzen. It is fantastic and amazing performance.
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Cool Beans. I will check it out.
Thank you.
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You picked the worst time to do this. The major manufacturers of silicon, TSMC and Samsung, are facing multiple problems with getting chips out the door, like a pandemic, trade wars, droughts, and fires.
Depending on the CPU you want, you may be waiting a while to get one. AMD released an entirely new line of CPU's 6 months ago and supplies of the higher end chips are in such short supply you can't find them anywhere in the world.
Intel just released their 11th Gen stuff, and, well, let's just say Intel is in serious trouble. The new stuff is still based on old 14nm process and doesn't compare in performance to what AMD released. Even though there's no shortage of Intel silicon, prices are still too high for what you get.
The newly released GPU's are so rare, the only people who have them are scalpers trying to sell them at 2 to 3+ times MSRP. Older GPU's are also hard to find.
Motherboards seem to be OK with supply and prices because no new chipsets have been released yet and stocks of those chips are sufficient to keep making boards, for now.
DDR4 RAM is in decent shape too.
SSD supplies are a bit shaky but consistent. Prices are a little higher than normal because of that and you may be waiting a bit to get what you want, but it's not bad. It seems demand for SSD's are holding right at supply capacity.
On the plus side, things are improving, though we're going to see short supply of silicon for at least the next 6 months.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: The newly released GPU's are so rare, the only people who have them are scalpers trying to sell them at 2 to 3+ times MSRP. Older GPU's are also hard to find.
Cryptocurrency miners are taking everything they can find at the moment too, apparently - the rise in value of Ethereum since March has encouraged them.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Thank you. I have been looking only at in-stock Items. What are the Ryzen models that compares to the Intel Core I5 ?, Core I7? It would help me in my decision making.
Can't think of anything pithy to say here. Peach Stone?
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Any Ryzen 5000 series destroys anything Intel has out today, including all 11th Gen.
To quote GN, the 11th Gen processors released last month aren't worth the sand they we're made from.
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Still waiting for a PS5 
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Just make sure your main board has a M.2 connector for NVMe SSD. Older SATA SSDs are much slower.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Thanks. with Windows10 taking soooo long to load (at leas on the machines I have, that is a consideration.
Speed Kills. (Football proverb.)
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I put a 1TB m2 SSD in my ageing ASRock Z97 mobo and the difference in performance was astonishing. Boot time dropped from several minutes to a few seconds. Everything starts quickly - even LR feels useable. Did a similar drive swap in my other half's ageing Mac Pro 5,1 and she can't believe the performance step up.
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Thanks. That is confirmation I needed.
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If you go for the M.2 PCIe SSDs (and I would)
Additionally make sure that they are cooled down well... they cut the high spees due to temperature.
So of you are going to do ML or heavy DB jobs... I recommend you to have a look to Kühlkörper IcyBox SSD M.2 IB-M2HSF-703: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubehör[^] (sorry, german amazon) or something similar... at least the one small, if there is place enough I would get the tower fan.
There are some benchmarks that the 16 mm is already enough to make a copy of 800 GB data at once, without permormance issues.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yes. I was looking at the M.2 PCIe SSD's and was unaware of the heat issue.
Thanks for the information.
The devil is always in the details.
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I bought a Mantis setup from "Computer Upgrade King" and I'm really happy with it..
It's basically a gaming rig but without the graphics card, so it has a wonderful Ryzen 7 8 core in it, w/ 32GB of RAM and a 2TB NVMe stick (though it shipped with 512GB and a 3TB HDD)
I spent about $1200 for it on amazon, not including tax.
I like buying base gaming rigs because they typically have decent quality power supplies and motherboards, good chipsets, plenty of ram and a nice CPU - everything i could want in a quality workstation.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Once you pick out a motherboard, download the user's manual and see if they have a list of compatible memory brands/models. Some boards are picky about the memory.
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I just got delivery of some parts to do my next budget build:
CPU+GPU - AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G, the G version has the GPU built into the CPU, did this because GPUs are very expensive right now. This is a nice CPU, but you have to order it from South Korea because it's OEM only.
Motherboard - MSI A520M-A Pro, this board specifically supports the above CPU, has HDMI and DVI out on the board, and is low cost. I've had good experiences with MSI. Boards don't fail after 5 years like some other brands I've had. The A520M Pro (no -A) has HDMI and Display Port out on the back, but Display port cables cost extra.
RAM - 16GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3200 16GB kit (2x8GB), "Engineered for the latest AMD platform"
SDD - Crucial P2 NVMe M2 1TB, it also comes in 2TB form. P2 is more reliable than the P1, but I've only got good things to say about Crucial in general.
Case - Thermaltake Versa H15 with 450W power supply, more than enough power for this build. I have 3 of these cases already, this makes the 4th, good for a neat build. Front panel ports are on top so you don't knock USB or audio peripherals out when you walk past.
2 x 32" 2560 x 1440 monitor with a BOE IPS panel (various brands, I have a Kogan). I love these BOE panels, great color, nice even brightness, supports freesync, and I run at 125% desktop scaling so everything is big and smooth, just the way my old eyes like it.
I haven't built it yet, I'm expecting it to be flawless.
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Not sure what you are going to do with it at work, e.g. will you compile lots of source files?
I can tell you the specs of my system:
Case: Fractal Design Focus G Blue
Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5950x
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030
SSD: Adata SX8200PNP, 2TB
with Icy box cooler: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B077MRDK16
HDD: Seagate ST2000DM008-2FR102
RAM: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout, 64 GB
CPU Cooler: Noctua nh-d15 se-am4
The middle fan is original Noctua, the outer fan is 120 mm Arctic (F12 PWM PST), since original doesn't fit...
Case fans: ARCTIC F14 PWM PST
Large RAM limits the need for swap file, so this reduces wear of SSD.
Obviously, my system is not a gaming rig, but it still allows CUDA development (device capability 6).
For SSD I read you pay a premium for the fastest, but hardly will notice the difference. So I opted for a cheaper 2TB instead of 'the best' 1TB. WD Black SN 750 is a fast alternative.
The RAM is a compromise also. It is 3600 MHz, but not the best timings. However, normally instructions and data should be in L1, L2 or L3 cache.
The system is very quiet and CPU temps are usually around 31 degrees Celcius, fans rotating around 500-600 RPM.
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Thank you. I will check those products out.
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