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Oh wauw. Thank-you so much - I really needed that.
Feels like another life now, I actually was a jeweller up until about 15 years ago. It's a lot easier than most people imagine.
I mean, apart from the design aspect that I always disliked and struggled with, many of the hand-tool skills are simply a product of time spent. It's engineering with simple maths, on a scale that makes it convenient. Well, it was back then when Australia was being flooded with imported mass-produced stuff.
Now though, 'everyone' has access to a 3d printer. That's something I wish I'd stayed a bit longer for. Design the ring in CAD program of choice, print it in wax or PLA and send it off to the casters. On one hand, you don't have any (proof of hand-made) solder joints. On the other hand, you don't have any (weaker and prone to corrosion) solder joints and there's almost no labour in it to be paid for. Depending on the exact design, stones that are good enough can be put into the wax and have the metal cast around em!
A fella on YouTube somewhere called Jason Welsh, does quite a bit of electroforming and electrotyping.
I've just discovered the Silicon Sealant + Corn Flour + Acrylic Paint = cheap mould making putty trick.
Having bought a second-hand car last time, it came with the usual signs of old age. Amongst those signs, a few missing badges. Well, I've moulded copies of the missing ones and painted the inside of those moulds with graphite lock lubricant. Off it goes into the CuSO4 bath for about a week to form the required thickness/weight.
:laughs:
Last night I was seriously considering a Cockcroft-Walton voltage multiplier to step the 24 or so I have to about 100 or more. That graphite is really not very conductive - 2.4mA from a 24v supply tells me I've got about 10k. Forming at 6mA for 24 hours creates almost no deposition - 0.17gms of copper. I'm going to want 20 - 30 grams.. 
Thanks for the diversion. 
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thank you, for your thoughtful reply ! at age 77, with limited vision, i don't think hands-on making is a direction i will go in, but the design aspect, starting as a hobby, is, now, without any real attempt at marketing, beginning to pay for itself, as friends want rings ...
CAD modeling of complex jewelry settings is a direction i want to go in.
(not for sale) This is one of my first originals ... a (USA) size 12 man's ring, with a 40 carat rutile quartz stone set in gold-plated .925 silver with rosettes on the sides with tiny citrines: the design, which I call "Sol Invictus," is influenced by the solar imagery associated with that god, with Mithras, Sabazius, Ahura Mazda, etc. [^]
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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And also serves as a brass knuckle! 
I think Akhenaten would have liked it.
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Too bad that Akhenaten was "erased" from pharaonic history by the restorers of the polytheistic religions ... can't see the type of elaborate jewelry that (his possible son) Tutankhamun was buried with [^] ... that meteor-impact produced glass scarab is stunning.
Examples of what is now called Libyan desert glass do come on the specialty gem market [^] but, a fine appraised piece is far beyond my budget
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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I'd never heard of Libyan desert glass. Interesting...thanks!
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I can't repeat it here, but it was mother-![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ing gold!
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Nice.
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Once again, some of the team members talked about the need for a new version of an existing tool for our cloud environment, and after we all talked about how it needs to be done, nobody stepped up and volunteered to do it, so I've taken it on myself to do.
Before we moved to the cloud, we used the existing "deploy tool" to generate packages for the various deployable apps and databases (and we had to do this for each environment on which the package would be deployed). The tool would create batch files that actually deployed a hierarchy of folders and files onto the various web servers (or dacpaks for databases). The idea was that the user pre-compiles the selected project on a "deployment box", and then runs this tool to assemble the associated files into the necessary folder/file hierarchy. It's even more convoluted than I've described, but I didn't want to turn this into that long long of a message. Suffice it to say, that a) the UI is not the best, b) the process is convoluted and prone to error, c) there were bugs in the app that nobody seemd interested enough to fix, and d) the app was no longer suitable for our current environment or desired processes.
In the new version, the user selects the desired app(s), and then clicks a button to pull the code down from TFS (for the specified change set or label), build it, and zip it, with no further interaction by the user. The user has the option of running Visual Studio and manually compiling the app if he wants/needs to do it that way. Coupling this tool with my new in-memory connection string code (also created without being told/asked to), we can create a single package to move from environment to environment as testing/validation proceeds, from dev, through to production.
I spent Friday working out the mechanical stuff regarding getting info from TFS, and building from the commandline with Visual Studio, and this morning, I started working on the app settings. I'm going to implement the app in the form of a wizard so that the user is forced to review the app prerequisite actions before actually clicking the button to generate the selected packages.
I'll probably get reprimanded again for stepping out of the "bounds of the contract" again, but I honestly don't give a sh*t. We gotta kick the can down the road, and I'm the only one willing to wear suitable footwear for the task.
I love this stuff...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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#realJSOP wrote: I love this stuff...
Of course you do. Why else would you put yourself through this, so close to retirement.
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It's an 80 mile (130km) round trip, but hey! It's taken long enough to get to me ...
And before you ask: Yes, I will be attending.
UK has jabbed over 26,000,000 inhabitants at least once allready, so we should be over half way to everybody by the time I get it. That's a lot of complicated logistics going on there (ignoring the political "difficulties"). I'm reasonably impressed.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Very sensible. We (me and SWMBO) are waiting the call for our second shot.
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Glad to hear! Herself and I had two shots of the Pfizer version. There were no side effects worth mentioning.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
modified 20-Mar-21 18:04pm.
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Dunno - they don't tell you that till you get there. Probably AstraZeneca.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Had my first one yesterday. Have some paracetamol afterwards and some before you go to bed.
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I got my first shot last week. second shot in 3 weeks. pfizer.
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Blimey -as you had the thing I thought you would be first in the queue !
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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If I get mine this year I will be happy 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Didn't you get the real deal and shouldn't that be at least as effective as a vaccin? 
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I did, but ... firstly nobody knows how long "natural immunity" as a result of infection lasts, but If I have the jab I should be "good for a year" maybe? I'm already approaching the anniversary of getting the nasty thing and I really, really, don't want it again!
And there is also the Official Government Mind which will only accept you are "safe" if you've had the jab. No jab, no Covid passport, and that's likely to become important in a few months when they open things up a bit. I can see many places opening on the basis of "no jab, no entry" and I'd be surprised if at least some places didn't. Certainly quite a few employers are saying "No jab - no job" which I can definitely understand!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: "No jab - no job" which I can definitely understand!
I can understand it, but I also completely disagree here.
Getting vaccinated is not mandatory and, at least in the Netherlands, it's illegal to discriminate based on being vaccinated or not.
Yet, we're getting this passport and if you don't have one you're, well, being discriminated against.
Having a Covid passport and not discriminating are completely conflicting goals.
It double sucks because some people simply can't get vaccinated simply because it's not their turn yet.
Most youth here will get their vaccin somewhere late summer or even fall (although they're now also saying June, which I yet have to see)!
And that while this is the group of people that likely won't even know they'll have Covid to begin with.
Yet they'll miss out on summer because of this passport and "no discrimination" policy 
And it triple sucks because people are always allowed to get into their own garden meaning I still hear them screaming, barking, crying and having "fun"
Man, I can't wait until fall when everyone's cooped up inside their own house again and things will be nice and quiet again 
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Sander Rossel wrote: Man, I can't wait until fall when everyone's cooped up inside their own house again and things will be nice and quiet again
You're getting to be a curmudgeon at a very early age!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Guilty as charged
Now get off my lawn before I call the lawn enforcement!
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Sander Rossel wrote: Now get off my lawn
Given that you live in a polder, wouldn't that be "What are you doing in my swamp"?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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