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Yep. Cheap, slow, and easy to manoeuvre. 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I checked the price forn an Impreza not long ago. Way out of my pockets, sadly.
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I learned to drive on this one[^]. Everyone takes power steering for granted nowadays. You needed some muscles to turn the wheel back in the days.
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Maybe they are people who want to figure out how computers really work without wondering what that guy behind the curtains is doing.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Read their questions and you'll see just how wrong you are ... 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Recent ones are clearly not that.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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hypothesis: peopel who post C-related QA questions here are the most confused, and/or least intelligent, peopel in the cohort of peopel (learning their first programming language) starting to learn C.
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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It's the one true faith, the source, the key to enlightenment. JavaScript, C++, C#, Java, Typescript...guess where they all come from. 
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I initially thought the title and content of the comment were one and the same - part of joke masquerading as an examination. It's still more fun reading it that way 
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I feel like it's a consequence of not telling people where to start, often enough.
They dig around the web / get an older professor at school and end up with outdated answers that don't make any sense.
My professional recommendations is C#, by following the official Microsoft documentation[^]
Short pages with hands-on examples. Branches out to every topic you might need. Used to suck 💯 but now it's above average consistently.
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It could be because C and C++ make you realize the fundamentals of programming and how other languages work 'under their hoods'. And/or because most other languages actually have all of the fundamentals, but 'toned down'. For example, C# and Delegates (C's pointer to functions), Ref (pointers), and so on.
MeziLu
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Assembler was my first language. C has the benefit of teaching you about memory, pointers, and other low level stuff that you really need to understand to be a top developer.
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Wow, I would not have guessed that C is a popular first language.
I worked in C around 35 years ago. I can't speak to whether it will be good for these people's careers. One positive is a better under-the-hood understanding of memory management and allocation that modern OO architectures just provide for you.
I think that background helped me design better, more efficient classes in the OO world.
I mean, if the developer truly understands what they're doing in C of course.
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Not sure what makes a language old fashioned, but all you have to do is look at any performance chart to see that C is still the fastest. It embodies functional programming well, but then the question becomes "what is the best programming paradigm to begin with?" The argument used to be OOP, but like any tool in a toolbox, the purpose chooses the toolset and tool.
What is the degree in computing preparing you for? Does understanding functional composition make more sense than inheritance as a staring point? What you learn first becomes the context into which all other concepts are framed. Personally, I think working with APIs rates as a solid first or second concept that you will use forever.
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Hmm. I'll take the contrary position and disagree with you.
I think C makes a good teaching language for a certain class of student who I will call, for lack of a more appropriate term, The Geek. The Geek wants to understand how everything works. They want to know how to tie bits together, and to make those collections of bits do new and exciting (aka  ) things.
C has value for that sort of student. It's as bare metal as you can get without resorting to assembly language. C provides an understanding of certain fundamental building blocks that are givens in more sophisticated languages. The Geek can build those blocks in C, which provides a greater appreciation of their strengths and weaknesses. There are consequences for making mistakes, consequences that will make The Geek really think about what they are doing.
I know this to be true, because back in the day I was The Geek  .
Software Zen: delete this;
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Hard to say, but it could have something to do with the fact that "The C Programming Language" by Brian Kernighan and Dennis Ritchie is the standard against which all programming books are judged.
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Thank you so much for your recent letter telling me you are putting the price of your service up from next month, but that I shouldn't worry, your commitment to service and great value isn't changing.
It prompted me to look around and see what I can get elsewhere, and I'll be leaving you on the 6th April and paying Sky £20 per month less than I was paying you. In addition, I get a better Sky TV package and Netflix, which should please Herself.
Thanks again, I appreciate the service you have given me this time.
Best regards,
OriginalGriff
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: Thank you so much for your recent letter telling me you are putting the price of your service up from next month
Haven't you heard that the prices of both telecom-quality electrons and fiberoptic-quality photons have gone up recently? Apparently they can't import them from China because of COVID restrictions. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Best to also let ISP know they shouldn't be worried that your commitment to watching TV and browsing the web is changing
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I'm truly hoping you have sent this to them.
They deserve to know.
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Not a super lot of competition amongst ISP here. Basically, almost everyplace has "Verizon" and some "other". Our other used to be local-ish Optimum Online. They still sort of use the name but they're really now owned by Altice.
Service and attitude have not improved with that change. They concentrate on faster and faster speeds that, in a practical sense, have no effect except increasing the monthly bill. They know their rival (Verizon) and their immense amount of add-on fees (and contracts): Altice has retained Optimum's no-contract model.
Every year or two I have to go through a ritual with them to keep them from billing me the full rate instead of my trial-off special. This year I had my speed lowered (to 200mbps) and let them charge my credit card automatically each month (oddly, it means they're paid later and I get "cash-back") - resulting in my bill actually dropping ca. $US 10 for the next two years (internet, two internet-telephone lines). Here, however, is what burns my craw:
I have to argue with them every year but they advertise on TV, Radio, etc., deals for new customers which are not only as good (or better) for a year but they throw in a $200 cash-card as well. Essentially they're more interested in new customers than retaining their existing customer base.
Basically, there's a huge whoring of the customer base between Altice and Verizon: it's always a good idea to switch providers (or "negotiate" with them every year or two). When the initial one-year deal ends the customers typically switch back (now eligible for the other ISP's deal).
I'm curious if your original provider will make offers to entice you back now that they know you'd have no regrets in leaving them.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: I have to argue with them every year but they advertise on TV, Radio, etc., deals for new customers which are not only as good (or better) for a year but they throw in a $200 cash-card as well. Essentially they're more interested in new customers than retaining their existing customer base.
That's true for other countries and other companies too... and it pisses me off too.
If you want to be in the range of "competitive" prices, you have to change your provider every 2 or 3 years, but they are trying to push a law that would make easier to identify "hoppers" and "punish them" in price or even rejecting the new contract.
Piece of   
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: but they are trying to push a law that would make easier to identify "hoppers" and "punish them" in price or even rejecting the new contract.
Who is this "they" ?
Such a law would, it seems to me, legislating more profits for private business - making it easier for them to not compete and increase costs to the customers.
Actually, quite the opposite of the way the EU behaves towards US companies (surprise !).
I can see the next step after the law passes. The next law will punish people who change the channel they watch on TV, then those who buy fuel at a different gas-station, and of course, if you dare shop in a different store.
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They are the lobbies and the ones in the shadows that make the politicians pass the laws of their interests
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: Such a law would, it seems to me, legislating more profits for private business - making it easier for them to not compete and increase costs to the customers.
pretty more or less that.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: Actually, quite the opposite of the way the EU behaves towards US companies
don't get me started... this is only the lounge
German government is losing the respect I had for, since Merkel announced retirement is getting worst moment after moment... the secretary of interior is trying to push several laws (again) i.e. IT-surveillance laws, data gathering, back doors in encryption, full identification when registering a forum in internet...
Luckily judges are trashing many of them due to legislative problems or citizen rights violation.
What happens at the end of the year when the elections are done... That's going to be "funny". 
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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