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Sounds to me like you have an internal corporate issue. As a general rule, outsourcing desktop support is a bad move for companies with more than a handful of employees.
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Oh the company is World Wide, I'll lay money on the fact if you didn't use one of our products at least today, you probably didn't leave the house. Also we have to have laptops to allow us to mobile (despite the fact the kit we work on is by very definition static it's sub sea, mostly).
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Not a real meeting - a staff meeting kind of thing.
Supposedly to reorganize (=> some is covering their ass) and reassign for more efficient use of personnel.
Depending upon how it goes, there's clearly a non-zero chance I'll resign (or be terminated?). The one calling the meeting is an upper-management slug and, well, I've found it necessary to push his buttons lately. To no avail! Doing something concrete is not in his job description.
Anyway, this earlier post is very interesting[^]. Hopefully I'll have no news at all.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: and reassign for more efficient use of personnel.
a.k.a. to put you where you can't piss off your current that boss anymore?  
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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Well - that would be feasible. I wrote and maintain far too much of the companies infrastructure for that. My current (real) boss is supposed to have sole and full charge of me (he fleshes out the bones on the infrastructure with data access/display it lets him easily customize).
Considering I am (1) seriously underpaid, (2) financially fully prepared to retire at a moment's notice, and (3) no one else has/is prepared to fill my position, I'm really not going to take anything that annoys me and may insist on my salary being brought up to parity with national standards (per Federal Labor statistics).
But I can't but shuffled away - it would be easier and less painful for them to replace the big shot and even get one that can be useful.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: it would be easier and less painful for them to replace the big shot and even get one that can be useful.
The biggest problem is, they usually don't see that... or they are "closer" to that inept boss than to "a simple dev"
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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admitting I am curious how this is turning out?
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Delayed meeting (imagine that - those things never happen). Well - it's due to start in about an hour (additional delays notwithstanding).
I'm curious, too. Demanding I attend may just be a power play (not just to me). It's even possible some "unofficial" agreements were made clear to him in the background and thus I'll be basically ignored.
It must be the Springlike weather, but I'm really in no mood to take any sort of sh*t. I'd miss a few people, but as far as professional relations go, I have more of them here, on CP.
(actually,I just dialed in)
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OK - it's all done with.
Supposedly it's an all-hands potentially on deck get a certain super-senior-management's pet project done. Something that he's wanted done for well over a decade. I gave him a solution, once. They did, however, what they always do and hire contractors to not get it done. A series of them.
The meeting caller was hired a couple of years ago for precisely this project - nothing's worked out so far. From the verbiage used, there will be lots of information gathering about various business units and all (which has all been done before) and nothing will come of it (just as before) but it can be used as excuse for looking like something's happening.
I'm not sure if they'll mess with me/us as it's really rather critical that the stuff keeps working and expanding. The made a PoorPoint presentation but that's hard to see over the telephone.
And a warning that IT may be part of the next round of layoffs . . .
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Have a couple of those, the worst one, was I was yelled at on a Friday and told I would have a meeting on Monday, spent all weekend getting notes for my defense, running scenario's in my head, come Monday the guy said 'Morning, nice weekend?' was overly polite for the day. Think Boss of Bosses said to him 'look he does X & company Y will only talk to him, not you' make friends. Spent an entire weekend getting ready for a battle that didn't happen...
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Interestingly, I think this one may have gotten a better picture on who's keeping the show running.
A very few of us in this place write code and (at least in my little corner) we really try to do a good job (easier than fixing it later) and have never screwed around extorting them because of their dependence on us.
The second paragraph is probably where we went wrong.
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I almost used it once. Caught myself just in time.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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I used it once, I admit.
To download Chrome.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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OriginalGriff wrote: I used it once, I admit.
To download Chrome.
I used it twice. I downloaded Firefox in parallel. 
Actually I do use it maybe once a month or so. On my work system when I need to be persistantly logged in as 3 different users to test something (one login/browser is more convenient and easier for me to keep track of than using incognito windows or multiple browser profiles); and on my personal system to check if my crap blockers are responsible for breaking a site without letting advertiscum drop/access previously dropped trackers on my main browsers.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I use WaterFox for that. What's neat is it will import everything from FireFox so the setup is really easy. It's like an older version of FireFox (deliberated made to support legacy plugins like FireFTP).
For a while I used it as my primary browser but now it's not detected as a new enough version to be allows (on a few sites).
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Never heard of WaterFox. I use Pale Moon.
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I have a link for PaleMoon saved but haven't downloaded it.
Every browser has it's up's and down's: what do you think about PaleMoon?
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PaleMoon is a fork of an old version of FireFox that supports an old version of Java. I only used it for an interface that required that old version of Java. However, we no longer use that interface, so I don't use PaleMoon anymore. It was like any old version of FireFox - basically does the job, but nothing spectacular. For security reasons, I would probably not use it anymore. In fact, I think I will uninstall it.
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Thanks - saves me a download/install. I've no actual use for java. The only java developer where I work left more than ten years ago.
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Might be worth trying the "multi-Account containers" add-in for firefox.
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Doesn't appear to do anything Chrome's equivalent built in feature does; if anything the FF one seems to be less capable if the screenshots are implying what I think they're implying. Chrome's failed because there were only subtle differences between chrome profiles A and B's windows.
The screenshots make me think the FF extension is trying to do it at the tab level not the top level window level. While cramming everything into a single window would avoid FF's tab restore on restart forgetting anything beyond the most recently closed window (meaning your state is ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ed if you accidentally tear a tab out without noticing it and then close the main FF window first); it also manages to fail even more completely at supporting my needs by not letting me have multiple users on screen(s) at once so I can just mouse left/right to manipulate things as needed.
Even if it did do separate windows, and also solved the multiple window restore problem; all the windows looking like firefox would still leave it worse than running multiple different visually distinct browsers.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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The multi-account container add-in just keeps cookies and therefore sessions separate. I use it so I can log into systems like AWS/Azure using multiple accounts without having to resort to multiple browsers and/or incognito mode.
Things like saved passwords are available across all containers.
Useful recently where I could setup a new container for my daughters Teams classes without having to log out of my own Teams session.
FYI. You can use the History --> Recently closed windows menu to get back lost windows.
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I used it to print CP articles when that was broken in Firefox.
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I actually used and liked legacy Edge starting with Windows 10 v1607. It was fast, stable, and almost 100% compatible with everything I do on the web. Between Edge and IE11 I never found a site that didn't work.
I do like the security settings and overall configuration of the Chromium Edge better though.
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