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VS 2010 is the last usable version.
modified 3-Mar-21 8:46am.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: VS 2010 is the last usable version.
Thank you for that.
I've been quite displeased with VS since 2008. Now I didn't try 2010 but have an install 2015 I use every year or so. There just seems to be an ever-increasing amount of "Stuff" that is peripheral to the code. Something unsavory about the evolution of VS.
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Yup, adding features for the sake of adding features, slowing it down in an effort to be more "helpful".
I have to use VS (2013 and 2015) for a few things at work, it's a necessity for SSIS, but I dread having to use it for "real code".
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Hah, amateurs! VS 2005 is the VS of my choice 
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Funny and Visual Studio rarely collide in the same sentence for me. I find that expletives are often involved when I use VS these days.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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I still prefer VS2010 when I can get away with it to avoid having VS call the mothership every time it starts. They're doing that for my benefit right? 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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Of course they are. That's why they tell you when there is a problem with your account.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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All Visual Studio's have had their issues so far.
My first was 2008 (I think, only for a few months), which was fine, but quickly felt limited when I started using VS 2010, especially with regards to data tools like Entity Framework.
I even did some work in 2005, but only on older projects, which felt outdated to say the least.
I think it was 2012 (or 2013?) and 2015 that felt very screamy WITH ALL CAPS, but they did their job.
I've been on 2019 since 2019 and it's fine, probably a matter of getting used to.
Going back isn't really an option if you're doing any modern web and cloud development because the tools simply aren't there in earlier versions.
ALL have given me headaches with projects that suddenly won't build, or projects that build, but are still giving me errors.
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Other seeking:
Weirdo seeks the similarly motivated to engage in building a better mousetrap - a very niche mousetrap running on hardware you probably don't even have want.
Hobbies include:
spelunking through the ESP-IDF
using google translate on chinese technical documentation, and then coding against what i get back
writing random missives on the code project lounge
writing code that gives @SanderRossel fits
Turn offs include
holy rolling (unless it's about a technology i also holy roll about)
caring too much about standards (we take a buddhist approach to coding standards in *this* house - *blows nose on robes* - don't get too attached to anything)
avoiding the undocumented parts
But if anyone wants to help come up with a better way to do FAT32 on an ESP32, and wrap or improve the IDF in general i'll be over here, trying to learn Mandarin.
Real programmers use butterflies
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honey the codewitch wrote: i'll be over here, trying to learn Mandarin
A politician or political commentator in the UK (I forget who) recently said "why do we teach kids French in school; it would be far more useful to teach them Japanese"[1]. As far as I can see, learning Mandarin would be the better alternative.
Footnote:-
1: He didn't pronounce the semi-colon. I added that for the sake of efficient paraphrasing. 
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I recognise that it is deeply ironic that I have a French surname but speak French rather badly.
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london ? 
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Cos I'm a Londoner. In fact a genuine Cockney in that I was born with the sound range of Bow Bells.
P.S. For the avoidance of doubt, the "r" bit refers to my surname.
modified 3-Mar-21 15:57pm.
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Some talking head opined: "why do we teach kids French in school; it would be far more useful to teach them Japanese"
Because mispronouncing Japanese is just business; mispronouncing French is a pleasure.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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When in Paris I found that if I asked anyone if they spoke English they would say, "non" and look disgustedly at me as if to say, "Why don't you speak French, you English Pig?"
So then I would start speaking French to them, thanks to my excellent English education!
Immediately, they remembered that they did, in fact, speak English (probably due to their French education) and refused to speak to me in anything but English - still looking at me disgustedly as if to say, "Stop butchering my language, you English Pig!" 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Just cheat and throw extra hardware at it:
Google ch376
(Sorry, was going to throw a link in here, but it looked terrible)
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honey the codewitch wrote: writing code that gives @SanderRossel fits
Made me laugh while drinking coffee, messy 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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honey the codewitch wrote: writing code that gives @SanderRossel fits
So you're planning to write code that's not absolutely 100% perfect according to my strict guidelines!? 
Well, I do love me a good witch burning
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bespoke polo catering stimulated the senses (12)
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ORGANOLEPTIC
Bespoke - anagram indicator of
polo catering
Stimulated the senses = "Relating to perception by a sensory organ."
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@GregUtas
Where's the CCC? 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I've been looking for information on chip lithography processes used in creating SoCs for IoT devices like the ESP32 based devices.
The ESP32 is @ 40nm which seems huge today, given my AMD APU is at 7nm.
Even when it was released 40nm was kind of big.
Now, these devices are known for low power, but even now, I struggle writing software that will use my ESP32's tensilica CPU in such a way as to extend the operating life on a charge.
If it's a cost issue, I don't think it's a tenable one:
I would pay 4x the price for ultra low power versions of the ESP32 widgets I have.
I don't know as much about other offerings like ARMs and so far googling isn't coming up with much real world info on lithography used across the range of IoT SoC offerings.
But my takeaway is these little chips have some catching up to do in an area where they could sorely use it.
Real programmers use butterflies
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But a thing to remember SoC is intended for embedded devices, which are more prone to static damage.
Stick you 7nM AMD is the envoirment I work in and it will dead with a matter of hours from static/seawater ingress, 40nM will last longer as there is more to be damaged before it pops. While not an issue for most things, if you are mounting it on the sea bed where down time cost a very large telephone number one of the key design requirments is how hard is to break, not how efficient it is. My company looked at getting Siemens to restart making an old chip design as it was 32 bits, big flat pack with hand solderable leads to supply spares.
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