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There's nothing more fun than
A) waking up at 4am with no hope of going back to bed
B) finding my dev machine rebooted while I was asleep
C) finding out my internet connection is completely toast when i woke up.
Thank you, windows update for B and C, and while I'm at it, A for good measure just because.
I either get to deal with this, or deal with Linux updates preventing my machine from booting at all.
And these are my operating system options, really?
I guess I could come crawling back to apple after almost 35 years of avoiding them.
But I respect myself too much for that.
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it's only you.
THEY ARE TRYING TO GET YOU!!! RUN TO THE HILLS (safe for work heavy metal).
I'd rather be phishing!
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Apparently they don't want me online anymore. Every single one of my network devices needed a reinstall.
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You're lucky you could get an update !
Our lovely electricity supply company implemented load shedding from 10 PM to 6AM the next day, so 4 AM really sucked for me.
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Oh man. I would send them a check for half, with a note about not paying for the downtime. 
But then w/ COVID here in the US they can't shut our power off for non-payment at the moment, so finally the shoe is on the other foot, and their customers have them by the short hairs.
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Hah, wrong country for that.
Not only do we get loadshedding so we don't have any electricity to pay for, the utility wants to up the rates because they have lost out on income due to non-supply, and are also proposing a fixed charge for solar power users !
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Sounds like some politicians have gotten too comfortable maybe.
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Same issue here. I just rebooted and all was well. no biggie. still, should not have occurred.
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I had to uninstall my network devices and reinstall them. 
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really? I didn't.
I just rebooted my machine. my internet routers and switches were fine.
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My actual physical devices were fine. But I had to - for example with my wifi widget - uninstall the drivers for the thing, unplug it (it's USB) and plug it back in before windows would use it properly.
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honey the codewitch wrote: I had to uninstall my network devices and reinstall them
Ugh. I just read some article (linked to from CP's Daily News email, I believe) about some urgent fix in the TCP stack. As I'm writing this I have a number of machines waiting on me for a reboot. Now you have me worried. 
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Oh man.. That's probably what happened to me. It was all my network devices. Good luck!
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What's a Windows update?
I've disabled mine so long ago I don't remember what they look like. 
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Marc Clifton wrote: What's a Windows update?
I've disabled mine so long ago I don't remember what they look like
I'm a long time fan of your contributions to CP Marc, and I have waaaay too much respect for you to send what would otherwise be a snarky response to that sort of statement.
I'm sure you have your security situation under control and are being smart about it. More power to you.
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I've never suffered anything this nasty. Maybe it's luck, but then again I probably have a much simpler setup than yours.
What has happened--more than once--is DNS query issues that totally turtled internet access. One of them had to do with an IPv6 setting. I had to search for solutions and don't even remember for sure if the fault lay with Microsoft. I also recall that another one was short-lived and was magically fixed by installing a pending update.
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My setup is a factory install of windows home edition with visual studio and VS code on it, plus a VM for running linux.
All my hardware is factory except the video card.
This machine was new as of the end of january - that's when i unboxed it.
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Quote: that's when i unboxed it.
Well, there's your problem right there!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I don't build them myself (at least not entirely) anymore. The reason is, these days it's cheaper to get a good "bare-bones" (read: without a graphics card) "gaming" system and use it as a fast dev workstation.
It's got the ram. it's got the nvme, and the nice chipset and motherboard, quality components, etc. But I would have paid another $300 on top of the $1200 i paid if i would have built it myself.
I honestly don't think it was my hardware. Most of it is ASUS (the mobo and WiFi adapter - and they shipped together so were likely tested together - better than what i could build anyway) and the rest is also good models of good brands.
The most suspect player in this equation, particularly since it happened right after an update, is Microsoft.
And if they didn't test their update with my standard WHQL tested hardware and that's why it failed? It's *still* their fault.
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honey the codewitch wrote: My setup is a factory install of windows home edition with visual studio and VS code on it, plus a VM for running linux
Win10 Home lets you run VMs?
Wait. I'm thinking Hyper-V. So, you're using a third-party.
Carry on.
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I use VMWare Player. It's not fancy, but it's reliable, and it even got my old linux hard drive I yanked out of a dying machine to boot in the VM.
So yeah, can recommend. It's an excellent free tool.
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Used to be a fan of theirs (I was introduced to the world of VMs with their Workstation product) until their prices kept going up and up. My employer could justify it, but not myself, especially after MS had started bundling Hyper-V right into Windows.
I've never looked into Player. If Hyper-V gave me a reason to look elsewhere (and so far it hasn't), it would be at the top of the list. I refuse to deal with VirtualBox, which is owned by that other hellspawn company.
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VirtualBox is garbage. It doesn't even carry USB through properly at least when running on a linux host OS, virtualizing windows.
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Good to know. I never even tried it.
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honey the codewitch wrote: I guess I could come crawling back to apple after almost 35 years of avoiding them.
Ask yourself: Should you buy into the promise the grass is greener...?
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