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I was just teasing. 
I'm a fallout addict myself. otherwise i don't play much, but when i do i use a gamepad. keyboards are for typing, not greasing super mutants, IMO.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Fair enough, lol. I rarely do any work on my home keyboard which is a Corsair mechanical without the 10 keypad. I would die without that on my work keyboard. 
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I use a mechanical ten keyless keyboard (Cooler Master Quickfire) on all my home computers. Also, I don't think I've ever come across an instance when I used the 10 key pad at work (retired now). I vaguely remember having a game decades ago that used the keypad but that's about it.
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I learned 10 key when I was younger so it's old habit for me whenever I have to enter numbers.
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Yeah, old habits are hard to break. In Windows I still use WordStar control sequences when editing text. I remapped my keyboard to put the control key back to it's original position (where the capslock key is) and wrote an AutoHotkey script to use Wordstar control sequences in all the editors/IDEs/word processors that I use. Heh, nobody I know can use my editors unless they disable the script!
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Joan M wrote: Are mechanical keyboards worth it?
Yup. Corsair here. Is also a RGB-type keyboard, with led light dancing. And best of all, it is spill-proof 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Keyboards? How quaint.
Why don't you just hold up the mouse and talk into it?
Start simply with something like "Computer..."
(A Scottish accent will probably help with this!)
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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I have a code full keyboard, I've been using it for a long while now,
It is a good keyboard, heavy, stable, nice key lighting, nice keys feeling.
not cheap; but it's something that I use every day.
It has one issue, the usb plug is flimsy.
I'm thinking of buying one for home (to game), probably one without a numerical keypad (not useful for home use)
I'd rather be phishing!
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Full keyboard, as in, numeric keypad on the side. Can't stand the inverted T cursor keys, never use them.
I love my Logitech illuminated keyboard. Actually, I should say the 3 or so I have lying around the house.
Mechanical? Ew. I want a quiet keyboard. I want a keys with minimal travel and force.
Though some sort of sci-fi sound would cool, like they have on sci-fi shows, but I've never found a decent sound effect that I can tie into a key press. 
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I can only tolerate ones with palm rests ... which have been MS keyboards.
A wifi one is handy for using with Hololense and the like.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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I always buy reasonably cheap Logitech keyboards.
But if you want the creme de la creme, you need to check out Optimus Maximus keyboard[^].
Or just anything using Cherry switches.
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Intriguing, but if I have to submit a budget for a keyboard design, then I think I will look at something a little more reasonably priced. Very intriguing though, especially with the configurable buttons on the left with customized icons.
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But "Das Keyboard 4 Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard" unfortunately doesn't come with backlighting 
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I use a Unicomp Ultra Classic and love it. It is not a quiet unit but I like the old school clickity-clack for some reason.
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If it was good enough for IBM when they were a hardware company...
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I have three of the Das Keyboard 4 Pros:
Das
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- there are cheaper keys, which I found to have inferior feel, and they failed after a short period of time. Get something with Cherry MX keys. Though I did have a go with Logitech G keys and they were quite good, just that the keyboard that was shipped to me didn't have exactly the layout that was advertised, so I sent it back.
- you need to figure out what kind of feedback you like - personally, I don't like the maddening click of blue keys, or even brown keys, so I have Cherry Reds. You can also quieten a lot of the bottoming out sound by performing the "o-ring mod" (a quick web search should enlighten), and if you're going to do this, cheap-o silicon o-rings of the correct size are good enough: no need to pay for "keyboard-specific" o-rings. Get them on Amazon: Amazon.com: Dreamtop 250pcs Clear Rubber O-Ring Rubber Keyboard Dampeners with Plastic Storage for Mechanical Keyboard Cherry MX Key Switch: Computers & Accessories
- the keyboard vendor seemed to matter less, once you have selected for good keys, since good keys drives up the price anyway: I have a Corsair k72 and a CoolerMaster mk750. I actually prefer the Corsair a little more because it has a scrollable volume control and integrated palm rest (vs the magnetic one on the Cooler Master), but if you're into fancy lighting, the Cooler Master does full RGB where the Corsair I have came in 25% cheaper and only does red (which suits me since I use red at night and I'm too lazy to change colors anyway)
ymmv, and it's a good idea, if possible (considering the price) to try out physical keyboards if you can, ie find some friends who have them and feel what it's like. A lot of these are built for the long run, which is another reason I moved to mechanical after one of my membrane boards died (it had a good run, really), so, considering the price and longevity, it's nice to find what you want first time (:
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You will spend your life
completely wasting your time
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We have two types here at the home office. Dell "compact" mechanical(ish) and Logitech K750 "solar" wireless.
The Dell is fine for occasional use however the Logitech is really great.
Short travel keys (better for big-fingered folk like me),
Full width, slim, stable,
Keeps full charge easily with everyday lighting, rechargeable button cell is replaceable if ever it conks out (contrary to what Logitech say),
Silly blue function keys reserved for multimedia playback/shortcuts etc.,
My twopennyworth...
So old that I did my first coding in octal via switches on a DEC PDP 8
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I use two on a regular basis - a Unicomp Model M (full keyboard) and a Filco Majestouch 2 (TKL) with Cherry MX Browns. Both UK layout (so I guess that's ISO?)
I got the Filco first and when I first got it, I thought it was excellent. Then I got the Unicomp... The keys have a lot more resistance than the Filco, but that makes the feel more positive, for me... But it's all personal preference...
I lust after a new Model F, but damn, they're expensive - too much for me!
You might be interested in one of Chyrosran22's key switch reviews - he's done several 'best switch' videos, depending on what you're looking for in switches. His review of rubbish keyboards are best though!
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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I have a G-SKILL KM780 R, gamers keyboard, with Cherry MX Blue switches. I love the sound and feel of the Blue's but you can have this one with other MX. It has several additional buttons, 6 for macros (for gamers, remember?), but I use those for store sequences of characters for working in Visual Studio. (Shortcuts like CTRL+M, CTRL+N or so). It also has buttons for multimedia, keys light intensity and programming macros. A nice characteristic is that it saves internally the macros, so if you carry it to use in another computer, the keyboard will have the macros ready for you to use, even if this new computer does not have the Macros Programming Software installed.
A con is this software. It is not so easy to use (more like a mess) but once you finish programming, unless you need to change something, this programed macros will stay in the keyboard forever, no matter if you disconnect the the keyboard, turn off the PC for months, or any other circumstances.
I fully recommend it and it is not too expensive.
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I'm on my 2nd Logitech keyboard. The first one lasted about 15 years. My current one is the K800. It's not mechanical, but the feel is responsive. The backlight is nice when working when it's dark.
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Joan M wrote: Are mechanical keyboards worth it?
Only in that finding a membrane keyboard with a non-adulterated layout is becoming a PITA. Cheap keyboards are increasingly using low travel non-chiclet style laptop designs  and randomly deciding that you don't really need an insert, or delete, or etc key as much as they need an extra $1/thousand keyboards in profit. 
The catch is that all mechanical keyboards are noisy. Even if you get a "silent" (lies) model; all that means is that it doesn't have a noise maker that goes click every time you depress the key half way; it still will go clack when it bottoms out. I have a non-click model with Cherry Red switches; and even after taking it apart to put rubber o rings as dampers on every key it's still loud enough that I wouldn't use it in a shared space.
Joan M wrote: If they are, is really that TOPRE thing the best thing in the world?
Only if you're going full keyboard dork. Otherwise they're another technology that failed by being absurdly expensive.
Joan M wrote: Are you using a full keyboard for your work or you are using a TKL + separate numpad or something different?
Full. I also mouse left handed, so the number pad placement is a total non-issue for me.
Joan M wrote: This seems to be the best thing you can buy[^], but it uses ANSI layout, which is a no go for me (ISO here), but... is that thing worth it?
Tasty koolaid you're drinking there. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Joan M wrote: Are mechanical keyboards worth it?
My preferred is Unicomp New Model M with buckling springs. The classical "touch" of the original IBM PC.
Nice keyboard for programmers.
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I don't think I'd want to spend that kinda of money on a keyboard without being able to take it for a test spin.
Fortunately for me, when I decided to get a new mechanical keyboard I was able to go to a local brick 'n mortar store so I could at least test out the feel of the various mechanical switch types available at the time. That's how I ended up with a SteelSeries Apex 7 with blue cherry switches that I've been very happy with.
I'd love to compare the feel of these TOPRE switches, but I doubt there are any locally available to me.
If you end up in the same boat, make sure you purchase your new keyboard from somewhere with a liberal return policy!
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