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I had to look that unit up. At $1,600+ USD, it had better be both pretty and make a great cup of coffee!
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Need to try my "coffee press" again. (For a change) They made a pretty good cup for what they are.
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― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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At work, we've had such machines for years. The canteen brews coffee the proper way. So we have chance of comparing more or less directly.
I was never in doubt: Twenty seconds is not enough time to extract the full aroma from the beans. It takes at least a couple minutes, the water slowly seeping through the ground coffee, to develop the true taste of coffee. So after lunch, often I bring a cup of decent coffee to my desk, rather than using the bean-to-cup machine in the office area.
At home, I have an automatic grinder, set for the amount of beans required for one pot (it has a bean container for maybe four or five pots), activated by a single push of a button. It runs while I fill the water container and get a coffee filter in place; I never have to wait for it.
If you want a single cup of coffee, rather than a pot, it may be less suitable. Who drinks a single cup of coffee? Maybe with espresso. You can easily turn the levers for espresso grinding and single cup. I rarely make myself espresso. So my grinder (of Krups make) is perfect for my use.
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trønderen wrote: Who drinks a single cup of coffee?
Me. I'm only allowed one cup per day ...
One Cup Per Day[^]
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I have one of
these[^]
It is, by far, the best machine I've ever used. The perfect blend between automatic and enough manual control that you can really dial it in.
Really good. Really, really good.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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On this side of the pond it's known as the "Sage Barista Touch Semi Automatic Espresso Machine" and runs out at £999 - C$1727.45. It's promoted by Heston Blumenthal - which explains the price, he's not cheap - and is probably very, very, very good.
Breville products here are known as "low end" tat, which explains the name change.
A bit more than I want to pay at the moment!
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Yeah, it's not cheap. I actually saved it from our office when we went virtual so I've cheated somewhat.
However, given I've not had a decent coffee since my last trip home in Jan 2020, this thing has saved my sanity.
We also have (as a hand me down from 10 years ago) an aged version of Miele CM 5300 Countertop coffee machine[^]. Our looks a bit stone aged compared to this one, but it's lasted through several thousands coffees and makes a great shot. We have the milk frother thing that's completely useless. So, we simple make a shot, ad warm milk, and we're done. Better coffee than you can buy at a cafe (in Canada at least) and the thing just keeps on going.
I also had a Rancilio Silvia[^] which was good, but very manual. Dial it in and it was great, but you have to get a decent grinder[^] to ensure consistency.
The biggest problem with them all is that they don't have a big boiler, or are pump driven. The milk frothing just isn't great. However, our Breville actually gets the milk right. The first desktop machine I've used that actually does.
But: anything over drip coffee. It's just not my cuppa tea.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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As JA suggested the Jura does a good job but needs regular servicing, not just cleaning but getting the bloody thing serviced. Never again will I get a Jura.
We find the espresso comes out slightly bitter but the cappuccino is delicious.
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I swear by mine! I've had espresso machines for over 40 years now, I had to buy the earliest in France since they were more or less impossible to find here in the UK back then. Mine is a Gaggia Brera, it's the second fully automatic machine I've had and is excellent. They do need regular descaling and the occasional clean of the moving parts inside but otherwise very reliable. I buy my coffee from Happy Donkey, Classic Italian beans, 6KG at a time since we get through it at a fair rate. Enjoy!
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I don't consider myself a coffee expert in any way, but we have a De'Longhi Magnifica ESAM 4200.S and it's convenient and makes nice coffee, or at least nice enough for my uncultured palate! Had it about 4 years so expecting something to break any day now 
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Can confirm Jura machines are great. We have just got a new E8 and it makes great espresso.
We did have a Jura Impressa C9 for many years (and several services).
But it got changed for a Miele (because you can remove and clean the brew unit). That lasted 2.5 years before disassembling itself on Christmas Eve.
Luckily the January sales meant we managed to get the Jura for £800, which with the amount of working from home is a bargain .
BTW, I have no connection to Jura, I just like their coffee machines.
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You can still use re-usable aluminum coffee pods for a pod machine if you don't want any waste. Pod machines can also be cheap.
Or better get a press maker for grounded coffee.
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Pod machines are cheap, because the consumables make up for it - it's the same deal as inkjet printers.
Bean / ground coffee will cost you around 10p / espresso, pods are around 4 times that, and are not accepted as recyclable here (probably because the small size makes it unfeasible to sort).
Coffee pods & capsules | Wales Recycles[^]
Coffee grounds are eminently compostable however!
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I have 2 Keurig Pod machines. I love them both. For speed, ease of use, convenience, No-mess, they can not be beat. No muss, No fuss. You should reconsider your position. Just saying.
BTW enjoy your posts more than those of others, even mine. 
Still alive and kicking.
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Be careful of the all-in-one coffee maker with grinder machines. The wet grounds are dumped into the machine's waste bin where they will grow mold and unless you like mold this could be a problem. We have one in the office and this is it's major issue. Yes, we regularly clean out the waste bin but it's always wet and has some grinds left in it.
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Well, for a lot of years now, I have actually switched to instant coffee. For two very simple reason. Some days, I might get up early in the morning to leave the house and just have time for one cup. Some days, I am rudely awaken by the coyotes here in the canyon making a ruckus at 4am in the morning, or the occasional crack head in the park across the street, which makes our dogs back. Then it might be 5 or 6 cups before noon. And regardless how many cups I might be drinking, I can easier adjust the strength (amount of caffeine) with each cup.
Beside that, I do not tend to drink coffee after noon anymore, if I have a long day/night, I might actually go rather with some juice or soda for the rest of the day...
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After having to cancel two appointments 25 miles away because of Covid getting into the care home where she works (you have to wait 28 days to make sure you don't infect everyone at the vaccination site apparently) she has just had a call from her supervisor to say "They will be here tomorrow to jab everybody - do you want one?"
Oh yes. Hell yes!
It's the new Oxford / Astrazeneca vaccine rather than the Pfizer but it's still worth having - this is a very nasty disease. She doesn't want to risk having it again, not at all.
Needless to say, I probably won't get the offer until sometime in May ...
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Congrats, the Astrazeneca vaccine now also seems to be approved in the Netherlands finally. The responsible minister is getting a lot of flak at the moment as our country seems to be very late to start the vaccination campaign.
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Here we have around 1.5 million people got the first shot... Including my parents (a week ago) and wife (yesterday)...
I just missed because wasn't at home midday (bad habits of going to work)
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I got a shot from the Putin vaccine ; I have been glowing in the dark since then.
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Be glad it's not the Pfizer vaccine. There have been too many reports already of people who have never had any sort of allergic reaction having sever, ICU level allergic reactions to the Pfizer vaccine.
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- Define "too many"
- Links to an appropriate report (NOT a newspaper article), or it didn't happen
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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You seem to know a lot about this! Would you be so kind as to provide me with links to published, peer-reviewed scientific articles to support that complete and utter bullshit?
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