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Jörgen Andersson3-Dec-20 8:40

3-Dec-20 8:40

Or just spreading some awareness for a good sake: https://www.projectnorthmoor.org/[^]
Support the campaign to save J.R.R. Tolkien’s home and establish a literary centre.

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DRHuff3-Dec-20 9:32

DRHuff

3-Dec-20 9:32

I was expecting a hole in the ground. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat

If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.

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dandy723-Dec-20 9:32

dandy72

3-Dec-20 9:32

I'm gonna be "that guy":

Christopher Tolkien has more money than his father ever had. His estate got a fortune from the movies alone.

I don't see why he needs my money to "save" a house that's bigger than anything I would ever be able to afford in my lifetime.

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Jörgen Andersson3-Dec-20 9:37

Jörgen Andersson

3-Dec-20 9:37

Is he involved?

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dandy723-Dec-20 9:42

dandy72

3-Dec-20 9:42

Seeing that he died last January (I just looked it up), I'd say no.

But if his estate isn't involved (he's still got grandchildren)...and they're not...then you have to ask yourself why. $omeone is $melling an opportunity.

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Forogar 3-Dec-20 9:40

Forogar

3-Dec-20 9:40

He is not involved in this project. Nor is the Tolkien Estate.

- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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Sander Rossel3-Dec-20 9:47

Sander Rossel

3-Dec-20 9:47

I was going to be "that guy", but you beat me to it Smile | :)

Next to Tolkien's family, who's always been very protective of his work, if I'm not mistaken, the actors alone could buy the estate ten times over and not even miss the money.

I also really don't understand why they're asking for our money Unsure | :~

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Forogar 3-Dec-20 9:51

Forogar

3-Dec-20 9:51

I'm buying a mug anyway.

- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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Nelek3-Dec-20 10:14

Nelek

3-Dec-20 10:14

� Forogar � wrote:
I'm buying a mug anyway.

Me too.

And I offered my help with text translation to spanish.
Not donating though.

M.D.V.

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F-ES Sitecore4-Dec-20 0:35

F-ES Sitecore

4-Dec-20 0:35

Meh, the works of Tolkien are both limited and literarily poor. 99% of positive sentiment toward his work is really just nostalgia for the movies of Peter Jackson.

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GuyThiebaut4-Dec-20 2:35

GuyThiebaut

4-Dec-20 2:35

Being one of those who has read the three books in the trilogy, plus The Hobbit, I thought they were much better than the film.
Although it's a long ponderous read, but yes I would not class it as literature like the works of say Dickens, Elliot or a more modern writers like Kazuo Ishiguro.

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Nelek4-Dec-20 2:49

Nelek

4-Dec-20 2:49

GuyThiebaut wrote:
I thought they were much better than the film.

99% of the books are better than the films.

M.D.V.

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GuyThiebaut4-Dec-20 3:04

GuyThiebaut

4-Dec-20 3:04

Although I thought that two of Kazuo Ishiguro's books that were made into films were fairly well accomplished.

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dandy724-Dec-20 9:19

dandy72

4-Dec-20 9:19

FWIW, I saw the movies long before I read the books. I did enjoy the books thoroughly, but I don't think there's any way I would've read them had it not been for the movies.

And I fully realize making such a statement is horrifying to the Tolkien purists. I'll remain polite and just call them...a special bunch.

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C^hris L^osinger4-Dec-20 3:29

C^hris L^osinger

4-Dec-20 3:29

F-ES Sitecore wrote:
99% of positive sentiment toward his work is really just nostalgia for the movies of Peter Jackson.

maybe if you were born in 1990, that could be true.

turns out, though, that the books are older than Jackson himself. and generations of people had already read and enjoyed them long before Jackson got anywhere near making those movies.

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F-ES Sitecore4-Dec-20 4:21

F-ES Sitecore

4-Dec-20 4:21

Before the movies a small number of people enjoyed the books for the books. Since the movies a large number of people now like the work, and of that new body of people 99% really only like the movies.

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C^hris L^osinger4-Dec-20 4:26

C^hris L^osinger

4-Dec-20 4:26

it was a NYT bestseller in 1966, 8 weeks at #1.

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F-ES Sitecore4-Dec-20 4:44

F-ES Sitecore

4-Dec-20 4:44

And how many people have seen the movies vs read the book? A magnitude of hundreds of thousands I'd guess.

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C^hris L^osinger4-Dec-20 5:54

C^hris L^osinger

4-Dec-20 5:54

fine. you're right. the world started in 2003.

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F-ES Sitecore4-Dec-20 6:06

F-ES Sitecore

4-Dec-20 6:06

I didn't say that.

Number of people who enjoy the books before the movies: 1,000,000
Number of people who say they enjoy the books after the movies: 100,000,000

99% of people who say they like the books are really just fans of the movies.

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C^hris L^osinger4-Dec-20 6:38

C^hris L^osinger

4-Dec-20 6:38

F-ES Sitecore wrote:
99% of people who say they like the books are really just fans of the movies.

the books have sold more than 150,000,000 copies, over 65 years.

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Nelek4-Dec-20 14:31

Nelek

4-Dec-20 14:31

And that only sells...

Add the people who have borrowed it, taken it from the library...

M.D.V.

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F-ES Sitecore5-Dec-20 0:20

F-ES Sitecore

5-Dec-20 0:20

You really think more people have read the books than seen the movie? You're sticking to that are you?

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C^hris L^osinger5-Dec-20 2:42

C^hris L^osinger

5-Dec-20 2:42

No, I don't think that.

Try using less straw.

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F-ES Sitecore6-Dec-20 2:01

F-ES Sitecore

6-Dec-20 2:01

You think there are more people who like the book than like the movies?

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