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I was the other way round: at Uni they taught us COBOL first, then FORTRAN.
The COBOL I tried desperately to forget, and loved FORTRAN until I met Assembler and later C.
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I'm 56. The last time I used it professionally was about 25 years ago. It's still used in the scientific computing world, where it has some advantages.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: I'm 56. The last time I used it professionally was about 25 years ago.
You're very young to have used Fortran.
I'm 53, but never had the opportunity to use it, but did learn COBOL...Ugh! 
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What I had heard sometime back was that the companies making Finite Element Method (FEM) software (used in Mechanical, Civil, Aerospace applications) heavily use Fortran. The Matrix manipulation libraries used there are highly optimized Fortran routines, which they would not want to rewrite in another language, and work on achieving the same levels of speed.
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Amarnath S wrote: highly optimized Fortran routines, which they would not want to rewrite in another language, and work on achieving the same levels of speed.
That makes sense. Must be a very small market though and interesting that the publisher is targeting people like those devs who might buy this book.
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That fits in with something lurking in the back of my mind about my first computer language:
FORTRAN's Mathematical Libraries are the best. That is, after all, it's purpose in life.
"Back in day" I used it to do simulations and instrument automation (things came with, amongst other things, FORTRAN libraries). When I moved on to 'C', it was because MS QuickC came with a graphics library whilst my FORTRAN relied upon assembly functions I had to make myself.
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Ahhh! I used to love QuickC (I still have it installed on this Win10 machine, though I haven't used it for years.
And then came QuickC for Windows, and DOS started to take a back seat in my life. Then the mighty (as in you needed serious arms to carry it) Visual C++ it grew into, which become Visual Studio (and Angels trumpeted it's arrival)
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At supercomputer centers, Fortran still has a strong position.
I talked with one guy working at a the local computer center, maybe 3 or 4 years ago; he told that Fortran was their standard language for "everything". This could have changed somewhat today, but a language that has been dominating in some field (like supercomputing) for a couple decennies won't go away overnight.
Then comes the question of which Fortran ... Long ago, when proposals for extensions to become Fortran-77 where discussed, one of the great gurus (Dijkstra?) dryly remarked, "I have no idea about what programming languages will look like in year 2000, but I know for sure that they will be called Fortran". When I stumbled over the Fortran 2003 standard, I immediately saw that he had hit the nail on the head, some 25 years earlier. After 2003, it has become more and more true.
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trønderen wrote: At supercomputer centers, Fortran still has a strong position.
trønderen wrote: (Dijkstra?) dryly remarked, "I have no idea about what programming languages will look like in year 2000, but I know for sure that they will be called Fortran".
Yeah, that is very interesting.
I mean C is never going away either, but I like C so... 
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I believe the nuclear weapons simulation programs at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory are written in FORTRAN.
No, FORTRAN is NOT going away. Ever.
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Not mine either - you win and are up tomorrow: what was the solution?
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I finished up the software on the PC side of my father in law's pump monitor (the in laws draw water from a creek) which can remotely track the status of the pump in the pumphouse out in the woods. As they get older stuff like this gets more important. It uses UDP to report the status of the pump - filling or idle (might be another status i have to add i can't remember)
Anyway, unless I'm missing something, the above should be fine and if I am missing something my FIL will let me know!
For this I prefer UDP to TCP for this because having to deal with connections complicates things on both ends. Worst case, if the arduino explodes or something, the PC software will just sit in the "connecting" status forever.
I am waiting on a wifi adapter for my arduino board so I can wire up that end of it and write the microcontroller code. I've got it about half fleshed out but without the wifi widget i can't do the rest.
This has helped with my anhedonia too, so win.
I'm glad my first project will actually be useful to someone. 
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Have you built a heartbit or something to track the connectivity? UDP is a fire and forget protocol (no handshake) so it might be hours "sending" data to the void without notizing.
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For the purpose of this project, a connectionless datagram protocol is absolutely perfect.
The arduino reports twice a second. The computer on the other end reads once a second. If the computer doesn't get a packet in that second it reverts to the "Connecting" state (any time it's not receiving packets it's "connecting"). As soon as a packet is received the state is set to whatever the packet's value is (one byte, 2 states - 0=Idle and 1=Filling)
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I see the makings of an article here
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Perhaps, although it's a project very few people would actually use. I'm considering it.
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It's something I've pondered on a few times but I don't have a need / use for - it sounds cool though 
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Seeing an article like that might be what convinces some people to start doing something with an Arduino. You have my vote.
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Homegrown SCADA? (My wife used to check the status of lift stations when she worked wastewater management)
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Heh, kinda, but on a very small scale.
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honey the codewitch wrote: filling or idle (might be another status i have to add i can't remember)
Full? Overflowing? Tsunami eminent? Maybe an earthquake sensor?
honey the codewitch wrote: I am waiting on a wifi adapter for my arduino board
Good luck - every time I tried adding a WiFi adapter to an rPi (as the older models didn't come with WiFi, I think the newer ones do) it was a complete failure. I tried several brands, I perused numerous blogs and videos, never was successful. I never buy an SBC now without built in WiFi support.
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I hope my luck is better than yours. I'm already hip deep in this project!
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The ESP8266 is a cheap and efficient board for doing this type of thing.
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I'm already using an Arduino Mega 2650 clone
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