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Do remember that the only people who get rich buy sueing is ... lawyers.
There was a British legal dispute between three brothers over their fathers will which ended in 2006: after 43 years, all of the estate had gone in legal fees and none of them received anything ... two of them had already died by that point!
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I don't think it's about the money; it's seeing what you can get away with (and $9B). They're peeved that Google has Android. This is like WINE and Parallels.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
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Unfortunately we have the precedent of Lotus vs. Osborne's Paperback Software. OPS had a Lotus clone (menu structure) and lost this suit even though the underpinnings in the code were completely different.
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The crux appears to be whether an API can be copyrighted, even if its implementation is independent of the original.
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So along this line of thinking, if GM had come up with the automatic transmission and the letters "P R N D", Ford would not be able to come up with its own transmission with those same letters?
This is beyond ridiculous.
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There was some discussion of this yesterday, which you might want to read. I gave some examples why I don't think it's necessarily ridiculous, although it would definitely depend on the specifics.
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The problem is that google did use some of the code verbatim, and there is also legal precedent where code doesn't have to be a verbatim copy to violate copyright, it only has to be largely the same otherwise you could change some variable names and claim the code is yours. There are also licensing issues where many APIs want you to use them, Oracle don't want you using java for commercial purposes without a license so rather than pay for the license google adapted what was essentially a fork of the code and used it for commercial purposes. There is a lot going on basically, it's not as simple as "APIs can't be copyrighted".
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To be honest... I don't care about google or oracle.
But...
Quote: More importantly, an Oracle win could reshape how copyright law treats APIs, giving incumbents the power to lock out competitors who want to build compatible software.
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It could also directly affect the livelihoods of computer programmers, who might find they are more frequently forced to learn new programming languages or other software tools when they switch jobs.
This is what I fear.
Quote: The distinction between a program and an API makes intuitive sense to computer programmers who regularly use APIs (and write programs) in their daily work. But it's far from obvious to Supreme Court justices, all of whom are lawyers over the age of 50.
Exactly what I meant the other day in the other thread here in the lounge.
And coming up next...Quote: This is a widespread practice in the software industry. Oracle, for example, re-implemented Amazon's S3 API so that customers who built software for Amazon's cloud platform could easily switch to Oracle's rival cloud platform.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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We ran out of toilet paper and started using lettuce leaves - today was just the tip of the iceberg, tomorrow Romaines to be seen.
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And someone above just yelled: lettuce have papers
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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Marie Antoinette proclaimed: Let them use endive!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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That kales for some serious head-scratching. Perhaps you corn cob out some sort of niche market - or just leaf things as they are (phew!)
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The only suitable use for kale, come to think of it. 
Software Zen: delete this;
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I think I said this before...
Lettuce? Why back in my pandemic days we had to drag our bare butts on the lawn, in the snow, uphill! Both ways!
Lettuce!! You had it easy...
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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(For reference, this is using Firefox.)
I was just surfing the Washington Post website - one that seems to have a strict policy of only allowing one article to be read before popping up a screen demanding a subscription. To get around this, I had been simply deleting the cookies via the toolbox icon in the URL textbox, but sometimes it doesn't seem to work. I also have the Cookie Remover add-on, which gives a message of how many cookies have been deleted. Sometimes consecutive actuations of the Cookie Remover show *more* cookies being removed, which seems to me to indicate that the website is responding to my deleting the cookies by loading more. 
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No, it's just that cookies are breeding on your system. Strange, they don't normally do that unless the site is coded in Spring.
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What is the technical term for "breeding cookies". I did a search, and nothing useful came up.
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"Baking" 
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Brilliant !
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Yes, many sites have got wise to this and have found a better way of stopping you from abusing their system.
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...which is why Google is trying to get rid of cookies. They put themselves in a positive light to those who believe them when they say it's to "protect their privacy", while in reality Google has plenty of other means for more thorough tracking.
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Try using a Private Window. That often works, though I can't vouch for this particular fish wrapper.
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They know your IP address; they can count; they can back their cookies for however long they want on their servers. They can therefore also tell who tries to game them. (As anyone who reads your post can tell).
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
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