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In much of the Middle East, water is at a premium. I thought sand was the medium of choice in those places. Maybe, for the equivalent of indoor plumbing, something akin to a litter box?
Well - at least, with typical daily exfoliation (in this aspect of life) their will be a considerable number of denizens with remarkably smooth bottoms.
Also, I distinctly recall that, in that part of the world, something about never touching someone with your left hand . . .
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A lot has changed (for the better) in the Middle East and Asia over the past three decades, especially in cities. Not sure if you've flown in or out of DBX (Dubai, UAE) or BOM (Mumbai/Bombay, India) recently. I haven't seen better airports in North America and Europe.
/ravi
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It's October, so pretty soon it will be Xmas adverts time - which I hate with a passion. To be honest, TV ads wind me up all year round, but the Xmas perfume ads are the pinnacle of pointless and annoying. So what would happen if these guys were put in charge of software development?
1. We need mystery. For the first two minutes of being on your new website, the user will be totally clueless about what it does! There will be no obvious aids for navigation. The user is going to have to move the cursor randomly around the screen until they hit something that might be clickable.
2. Grab attention. We need some 'edgy' background music, (that sounds like the police have raided an illegal rave?), and something that flashes enough to cause an epileptic fit.
3. Create a talking point. Let's go with scrolling a pointless, random statement across the screen, which only the marketing/advertising guys 'get'! Here's a starter: “Impossible Is Nothing”.
4. Be bold. No more dark blue on white, sans serif text, in nice orderly columns.We are going with garish typography and clashing colors, splattered randomly across the page.
5. Login is mandatory. Yes, even just to see the home page! Harvesting personal data is the primary aim, so no-one is going to see anything until we know their shoe size and overdraft limit. Don't worry about https, password fields, or storing data securely - or the fact that most visitors are going to think: "Log In? F*** that!". That's not a priority. Getting the orange to black background gradient is the priority!
6. Make it identical to your competitors. "I see what you've done here guys, but it looks nothing like Chanel's Payroll SaaS offering. Let's loop back and ...."
I'm not going to apologise to any marketing/Advertising people on here, (hopefully there aren't any!), as they will only have read the bits in bold - and will probably think this is a handy checklist for when they apply for the Head of IT job. 
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Soooo... websites from the 90s then? 
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They may not run software development, but if you don't give them what they want - you'll hear from upper management.
Such is the way of the world 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I was going to say that they, and especially sales, do run software development. They speak of things not yet built as if they already exist, and then developers have to build them yesterday. But guess who gets the big bonuses?
Don't get me wrong, good ones are well worth it. But there are lots of mediocre ones, just as there are lots of mediocre developers. However, mediocre developers can't do anywhere near as much damage.
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Greg Utas wrote: However, mediocre developers can't do anywhere near as much damage.
Windows 10 updates take the validity of that argument away 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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1. Microsoft Windows 8 and all promotional websites for Microsoft Server products which use huge numbers of buzzwords but don't actually say why you might want to use the product.
2. All clickbait sites, plus much of Facebook and Medium
3. Most new commercial framework sites and a few FOSS ones too.
4. All 'well-designed' advertising for major products today, eg Lenovo, Corel, you name it
5. Just about every site that actually contains useful information, rather than puff, plus sites that you need to access urgently, but require five forms of identification, including DNA samples and one of your children, before they will allow you to use the click-bait links they position above and below the almost entirely hidden link to the thing that you want, but which now gives a 404 error.
6. Almost all corporate websites for web-design, computer graphics or video editing.
In other words, you are too late - already happened.
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1- create mystery
I visited that web site yesterday in hopes of finding documentation for phpList.
phpList dot com.
I think maybe they're selling hosting ... maybe ...
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Sounds like a flashback to 1997 web sites.
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5teveH wrote: What if... Marketing/Ad people ran software development?
Haven't you noticed? They do run software dev.
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I recently had an exciting startup idea. I have had a negative experience, which led to the startup idea. I sincerely want no one to experience such situations. However, I do not know where to start my project and where to get the investment, which cloud provider should I choose. Maybe someone has been begun and can boast of life hacks?
modified 1-Oct-20 19:21pm.
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Please send my your bank's routing number and your account number so I can forward some funds
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: Please send my your bank's routing number and your account number so I can forward some funds
Due to currency exchange rates, it will be a lot cheaper if you send me your account info and I'll deposit it directly.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Having the idea is relatively easy, selling the idea is quite difficult and building it is the easiest part of all, support is also a long term issue.
Depending on the amount of investment you feel you need you will have to pitch the idea to people at the correct level. Small project you may be able to fund it from family and friends with the minimum of preparation. With a large project you are going to need a business plan and it is going to have to be excellent to get any serious funding.
Start by writing down the idea with the goals you want to see and the benefits a user is going to get. Then put that idea in front of an experienced person you trust/respect, get them to shoot holes in it. If there is anything left then you go to the next step.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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1. Risk Management.
Brainstorm for all possible risks, which can include positive outcomes (positive is less likely than negative, but it does occur). Next rate each risk on the likelihood it will occur and the impact the risk will have (good or bad), using a 3 point scale.
Address risks rated High/High (likelihood/impact) first. Develop a mitigation strategy that will reduce or eliminate the likelihood and/or impact. Next address the High/Medium and Medium High risks, developing mitigation strategies. Then Medium/Medium. If you have time, address the remaining risks, but ones already addressed are your biggest dangers.
This helps you spot holes in your idea, your business plan, prepares you to handle problems, and provides you with solid answers to difficult questions that investors may ask. It makes you look prepared, because you are prepared.
2. Cost List
Using all documentation you've prepared, develop a cost list. What things do you need, when do you need them, and what will they cost? This is another one to pass in front of an experienced person to get input. Regardless of what you determine the costs will be -- there will be things you did not consider.
3. Change
Be prepared to drastically alter your plans if your preparation indicates you need to. Let go of initial ideas if you discover they don't work or you find better ones.
4. LLC + NDA
If you really believe your idea can get rolling, form an LLC (assuming you're in a country that has such entities). The cost of forming an LLC in my home state in the USA is ~$200 to $300.
Get a signed NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) from everyone you discuss your idea with. Start protecting your intellectual property immediately. If you get to this stage, you may need legal advice.
You may recall the saying, "you have one chance to make a good first impression". Before talking to anyone, do your best to be prepared and present your best face.
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And you are telling me this why?
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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This is a reply to the thread, expanding on your point. It's not directed specifically at you.
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Rocco Prestia, Tower of Power Bass player died on the 29th Oct, Just found out,
Rocco Prestia - Wikipedia , I know there are some Bass Players & guitarists here. Kinda Sucks...
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glennPattonInThePubAgain! wrote: died on the 29th Oct,
He died 4 weeks in the future? 
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Do you think anyone has told him? That would be kinda cruel ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Well, Mr.Patton is in the pub again!
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Yep. Don't trust auto correct and read before you post STOOPID!
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"Good morning Doc"
"Ah, good morning - I have bad news and good news for you"
"MMmhh ... What's the good news ?"
"You have an incurable disease and three days left before you die"
"WTE ??! If that's the good news, what's the bad news ?"
"I've been trying to reach you for the last two days"
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