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I've been doing it for over 30 years and all along there was "4G" languages promising to do just that no/low code apps - UserBase, DBase, Fox, Clipper, Paradox, Access, ... Somehow none of them is still around and regular LOB applications are still written in C#/Java/... (was C and COBOL when I started). The only noticeable change is that report generation is mostly gone to the drag&drop reporting apps (SSRS, Cognos, Crystal)...
May be I can squeaze another 30 years out of it 
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gstolarov wrote: I've been doing it for over 30 years and all along there was "4G" languages promising to do just that no/low code apps - UserBase, DBase, Fox, Clipper, Paradox, Access, ... Somehow none of them is still around and regular LOB applications are still written in C#/Java/... (was C and COBOL when I started).
I understand that FoxPro, despite being killed off by Microsoft, still has an active user community. And Access, of course, is highly successful and used widely.
Also there is Clarion, a 4GL that had its heyday in my opinion in the early 1990s but is still around. I see DOS apps written in Clarion still in daily use.
And so 4GLs were and still are successful and do still see use of LOB applications.
However, what really halted the 4GL wouldbe revolution in the 1990s was: Visual Basic.
It was Visual Basic that caught on to a large part of what made 4GLs so successful at the time: (a) The easy of drawing a UI, and (b) relatively easy coding language, and (c) easy database integration (although VB's database integration was never as good as say, dBase, Fox, or even Access).
As Microsoft's own languages and languages from other companies developed, these key features were replicated and improved again and again. E.g. C#, Java, Delphi.
Delphi is also still around and still heavily used but VB and C# halted its own potential rise to the heights of LOB dominance that might otherwise have been the case. And even C# and Java have limited VB(.NET)'s growth, although as far as I can tell it is still more heavily used in corporate LOB apps than Microsoft credit it to be.
gstolarov wrote: he only noticeable change is that report generation is mostly gone to the drag&drop reporting apps (SSRS, Cognos, Crystal)...
Well here we go. In truth a lot of what 4GLs were used for was, in effect, report generation. So really these reporting apps are the 4GLs of their time, focussing on a very specific job.
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"People used to charge $400 an hour to write HTML"
In what f*ckin universe? HTML isn't even a language and can almost not even be called "programming".
Lo/no-code solutions are practically NEVER the answer.
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#realJSOP wrote: HTML isn't even a language and ...
What does the "L" in "HTML" stand for?
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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#realJSOP wrote: Lo/no-code solutions are practically NEVER the answer.
Not at all true. I know businesses that run their business exclusively on low code environments. Devs need to take it seriously.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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The startup IonQ today announced what it's calling "the world's most powerful quantum computer." When do we get to "most useful quantum computer"?
Or even "usable quantum computer"?
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Kent Sharkey wrote: The startup IonQ today announced what it's calling "the world's most powerful quantum computer."
Did the one marketing guy that said "Windows 10 is the best Windows ever" change the company?
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Nelek wrote: Did the one marketing guy that said "Windows 10 is the best Windows ever" change the company?
If a software vendor doesn't say that they haven't done their job!
Kevin
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Since you apparently aren't required to show anything, let alone prove that it works, I have the world's most powerful quantum computer.
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Where do I throw my money at you? 
TTFN - Kent
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Or even "usable quantum computer"?
Several years away. However, the work that's being done isn't useless, despite no usable end product. They've managed to improve some classical algorithms as a byproduct apparently.
It's also stimulated post-quantum cryptography research.
Kevin
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Today marks the 40th anniversary of "The Ethernet: A Local Area Network; Data Link Layer and Physical Layer Specification," a version 1.0 specification published on 30th September 1980. To celebrate: turn off your WiFi and jack yourself in
Should be a CAT6 holiday!
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That explains a lot...
The internet has got full in the crisis of the 40 
Anyways... Happy Birthday ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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It will be buying a sports car soon
TTFN - Kent
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no doubt it'll be a Bugatti.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
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Seeing this new notification appear means you really need to back up all your data immediately. Click "OK" to crash now
Maybe it will give you a bit more warning. I hope.
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The SMART standard provides the host with an SSD media wearout indicator. Assuming that the SSD firmware maintains this accurately, Windows should be able to give ample warning of imminent failure.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Quote: Assuming... should be able to...
Theory and practice are in theory the same but in the practice...
Although it would be a cool feature, I actually expect this to give more problems than solutions
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Nelek wrote: lthough it would be a cool feature, I actually expect this to give more problems than solutions
What problems could it cause? As far as I can see, the only likely problem is false positives. But that's going to benefit the SSD manufacturers isn't it...
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markrlondon wrote: What problems could it cause?
Haven't you read about all the windows 10 updates lately?   
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: ample warning of imminent failure.
Isn't that something of an oxymoron?
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The .NET Foundation announced a new open source project under its direction, the .NET nanoFramework, which allows for C# coding in Visual Studio for constrained embedded devices. "Let's get small"
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Kent Sharkey wrote: "Let's get small"
As you whish
using System;
namespace MyNamespace
{
..class MyClass
..{
....static void Main(string[] args)
....{
......Console.WriteLine("Hello World!");
......Console.ReadKey();
....}
..}
}
Tags not compatible, dots as empty spaces
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BYE
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