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OriginalGriff wrote: As you probably know, we had it back in April / May
Pah, those are very small odds, that won't happen to me!
OriginalGriff wrote: and it was a very, very nasty experience
I'm still young so it won't hit me as hard!
OriginalGriff wrote: in the aftermath, I got mild Covid Eye
Small chances!
OriginalGriff wrote: Herself got Covid Toe and needed antibiotics / fungicides / blister cream
Probably just a regular fungus!
OriginalGriff wrote: But now we're both going bald!
OMG PEOPLE! WEAR MASKS, STAY AT HOME, 1.5 M SOCIETY, LOCKDOWN!  
Good luck with the aftermath to the both of you 
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I don'T know if you are being serious but...
Sander Rossel wrote: Pah, those are very small odds, that won't happen to me!
What doesn't happen in years, cann happen in a second.
Sander Rossel wrote: I'm still young so it won't hit me as hard!
I would not bet my life on it.
I am just some years older than you and have some school pals in the deceased lists.
Hope the best, but be ready for the worst.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: I don'T know if you are being serious
Seriously? I thought you Germans had figured out English humour by now. Yes, I know Sander is Dutch, but his English is exemplary.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: I thought you Germans
I am not german  
Richard MacCutchan wrote: had figured out English humour by now
You haven't see the news here... the anti mask demos, and the bunch of morons that believe this is a lie of the government or a control mechanism of big corporations.
So all in all, a plausible doubt to say "I don't know if you are being serious"
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Ah, you're a spy.
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Yeah, he's secretly working for Stack Overflow ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Thanks I guess! 
And I was indeed, of course, joking 
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Sander Rossel wrote: Thanks I guess!
You're welcome.
Sander Rossel wrote: And I was indeed, of course, joking
Evidence that your English is excellent.
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I thought that ED would be the only thing that would convert anti-maskers, but that works too.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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If it caused Erectile Dysfunction we'd all be wearing double masks 
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Given the state of my hair, that's one COVID-19 side-effect I don't have to worry about. 
Look on the bright side. If you're healthy enough to note minor details like the state of your hair, you can't be too ill.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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"She tied you to the kitchen chair
She broke your throne and she cut your hair
And from your lips, she drew the Hallelujah"
Don't know if your strength might have been in your hair, but your wits and sense of humour were somewhere else.
Get better soon!
Mircea
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Quote: You say I took the name in vain
I don't even know the name
But if I did, well really, what's it to ya?
Good one, that. I quite like the Susan Boyle version as well: Susan Boyle - Hallelujah - YouTube[^]
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Question:
Why should I hire a software engineer if I can just copy and paste code from the Internet (CP and other sites)?
Answer:
It is still worth the money. Because -
- Copying code from Internet - $ 0
- Knowing which code to copy from Internet - $ 100000 / year
- Understanding that copied code, and fixing it so that it works correctly, and passes all tests - $ 200000 / year
- Maintaining that code - $ how much?
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What he said.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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What he said.
And the same goes for comments too...
A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong
A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.
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I've done the first 3 at least for some of my projects here. Saved me time for parts of the project even if i did have to modify it.
Real programmers use butterflies
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A good software engineer will also
- 're-use' prior art/code or the ideas/techniques expressed by that code
- attribute/give credit to the original writer
- while not exposing you to legal sh*t for any breaches of the prior 2 points
- making the code maintainable is a given (or is it these days ?)
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Garth J Lancaster wrote: while not exposing you to legal sh*t for any breaches of the prior 2 points
Here is a scenario:
- A software engineer takes code from the Internet.
- He/she then modifies all variable, method and class names, and then deploys this modified code into production software. (Does not modify anything else in the code). Without attribution.
- Is this an IP breach? Morally/ethically yes, but legally?
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IP rights only extend to the patent, copyright, trademark, and "trade secret" categories which probably wouldn't be open source though it doesn't exclude it.
It would probably be a violation of a license's terms though. That code would be considered a derivative work which still falls under the original license. It should be pretty easy to show that something is a line-by-line copy with different names to a judge.
Now if someone took the idea of your work and wrote their own with the same general logic but different implementation details, I have no clue. You'd have to ask a lawyer. My hunch is there's no way you'd be able to reasonably prove your case with only the source code.
EDIT: Some words.
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Amarnath S wrote: Is this an IP breach? Morally/ethically yes, but legally?
I would say that it depends on the country. The modified code would probably be recognized as a "derivative work", and therefore subject to copyright, if nothing else.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I've worked as an assistant expert witness on a number of 'IP' type cases - is it an IP breach (and only considering what you've outlined here) ? most certainly ... expert witnesses analysing code for such look at a number of factors to determine such, but that is some of the most obvious things to do, ie modifying variable/method/class names ..
Sometimes when you're analysing code, there may only be one way of doing something - sure .. but there can be a whole lots of other things/factors 'around that' which may provide the determination of 'copying' or not
.. as said above by others, none of this takes 'licensing' or "what is allowed for a 'derivative work'" into consideration... there be dragons everywhere
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