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It's communism tho so it's the opposite. Nobody shaves and everyone smokes. 
Real programmers use butterflies
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Member 7989122 wrote: your neighbours won't talk to you, you may have problems finding a job, people won't do business with you
Sounds exactly like normal living in London to me ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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Member 7989122 wrote: that we are different in this respect:
You would have no idea. I didn't make any statement, just a silly little comment.
Member 7989122 wrote: but the price you may have to pay is that your neighbours won't talk to you,
Boo hoo.
Member 7989122 wrote: you may have problems finding a job,
Unlikely, since it is illegal.
Member 7989122 wrote: people won't do business with you
Who? I don't even know what sexual orientation anyone is that I do business with.
I sure don't live in the same world as you.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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You missed COBOLotomic! 
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You missed my dear old FORTRAN!
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APL is CONCISE
APL is A Programming Language - the only recursive acronym in language names?
P.S.
PHP ^H^H^H
So old that I did my first coding in octal via switches on a DEC PDP 8
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I don't catch main message of your list. It's the same FUN LIST. Moreover - your list is total cr@p.
C# - industrial language, handy for desktop and server development.
C - mostly for gaming and embedded worlds.
D - perspective language to replace old sh%%t like C.
Period. There is no other languages which reward to live.
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lol, you say to stop making fun
and then you call that horrible python crap BEAUTY...
and all the junky useless javascript as AWESOME...
and keep the most actual awesome language (C)... with a title of just 'fast'
yeah thats not something that sane programmers can go with
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I think the funniest part of this joke is how many people completely miss it. 
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson
Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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My favorite programming language is English.
Or did I miss not only the joke but the message?
Actually I'm just a carpenter and I have many hammers.
( except that stupid language Cobol. I saw an article that says it becoming popular again,,,,, sure it is)
Actually I laughed at most of the responses posted on this one.
When did programmers develop such a great sense of humor?
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Nah 
Mind you I do know a little of each and respect some others outside the holy trinity (ASM/C/C++) but there are some really rotten tomatoes out there (cough* COBOL cough*), but this goes along the lines of that joke: "...oh we should respect Python programmers in the Linux Kernel community to be more inclusive..."
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If you ever hear someone call JavaScript "awesome"... stab me in the neck and let me drain.
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endearing 
~d~
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A very cool map - simple but as it should be[^]
Don't miss the little satellite button!
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Very nice!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Sun workstations used to have a desktop background that did this. I don't recall how often it updated. They also had an xphoon background, which showed the moon, in its current phase, complete with earthlight. Also very cool.
Keep Calm and Carry On
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You should have:
- a houseplant
- an ex you're not over
- the overwhelming feeling that you're not making as much progress in life as you would have liked
- debt 
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No comments on #1 and #2 other than amusement, but #4 can be a big contributor to #3.
Debt for anything non-essential is a mistake. Essential is very limited and would include
- moving expenses when a job takes you elsewhere (although some companies will pay for this, especially as new grads have yet to accumulate basements full of junk)
- a serviceable used car for getting to work
- student loans for a degree that is required to help you earn a decent living
Most everything else is non-essential. The more you save, the less you'll be overwhelmed. Unexpected things like your employer going under, or even this coronavirus thing, won't faze you. And if an employer mistreats you, you can give them the finger knowing that you don't have to find something else tomorrow.
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Greg Utas wrote: Essential is very limited and would include
A house/mortgage?
And when you want to get a mortgage, a phone subscription and credit card are considered debt too, at least in the Netherlands 
Having the possibility to go negative on your bank account as well (even when your balance isn't and has never been negative).
Needless to say not many people are without debt
Greg Utas wrote: if an employer mistreats you, you can give them the finger knowing that you don't have to find something else tomorrow
I haven't given anyone the finger (never burn bridges), but I did quit a job without having a new one and took a week of unpaid leave to boot.
I really didn't want to work there anymore and I think I got that message across
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Sander Rossel wrote: A house/mortgage?
I'm sure this will find disfavor, but a house is just a consumer good, especially when so many housing markets are overvalued, even insanely so. If you like the house and are planning to stay for, say, at least 5 years, then buying it is a consideration. If not, the transaction costs could easily wipe out any gains and more. Having all your net worth tied up in a house is putting all your eggs in one basket. Houses also have maintenance costs, and property taxes in some cities are increasing at loanshark rates because, let's face it, you can't move your house to another jurisdiction.
The experience of many people is that houses always go up in value. With interest rates at historic lows, and with the possibility of economic upheaval continuing, I hope they don't get hurt. Coronavirus was just the pin; various bubbles, inflated by ten years of central bank arseholery, were already waiting to run into one.
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Greg Utas wrote: houses always go up in value
And the ignore that it's at best irrelevant (where are you going to live if you sell it for a profit?) and at worse a disaster (when you sell because the family needs more space and find all the bigger ones have increased in "value" at a proportionate rate and your are suddenly miles behind teh curve and way out of your financial depth).
High and rising house prices help only real estate agents, solicitors, and government tax departments ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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So what's the alternative? Rent?
Rent is often more expensive than mortgage except when you pay rent your money is gone forever.
Depends on how long you're going to live in a house, of course, but five years of rent is easily €50,000 down the drain.
If I currently bought a €300,000 house and got that money from the bank and paid that back over 30 years, I'd "only" pay €40,000 in the next five years.
That's a €10,000 difference on the highest interest I can get.
Meanwhile, rent is rising while my interest is not.
Then when I sell my house after five years I probably get €300,000 or more back for it.
This is all very dependent on where you live though.
When you live in a city renting is probably your only option unless you're a millionaire or very lucky.
And rent or buying may be cheaper or more expensive in different countries or even different areas (€300,000 will buy you a box in Amsterdam, but it'll buy you a huge estate in Gelderland, so to speak).
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Sander Rossel wrote: So what's the alternative? Rent?
I've been renting for almost 20 years.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Rent is often more expensive than mortgage except when you pay rent your money is gone forever.
So, there's another I just need to interrupt.
Costs of rent or buying are similar if you take in account the subsidies. If one had to pay the entire interest on the loan without our government paying a part, it would be more expensive than now; and you are also responsible for maintenance and your end-value is a bit uncertain. You dismissed both risc and cost (of ownership).
Your money isn't "gone" when renting. You're not from the generation that ever rented a video-tape, eh?
Renting doesn't mean your money is "gone"; that's bullshit that financial experts spout. If you rent, you pay someone for the luxury of using an item without any risc or costs associated of owning that item.
SaaS is built on the idea of renting software instead of buying it. And yes, that usually kills the conversation at the party with so-called financial expert.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: If one had to pay the entire interest on the loan without our government paying a part, it would be more expensive than now
Yes, and fortunately we're going to stop this "hypotheekrenteaftrek".
Getting a subsidy on a loan of which the already rich have a lot more profit than those who actually need it, crazy
No doubt it's one of the reasons houses are so crazy expensive right now!
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Renting doesn't mean your money is "gone"; that's bullshit that financial experts spout. If you rent, you pay someone for the luxury of using an item without any risc or costs associated of owning that item.
That's a lot of money to mitigate some risk!
Eddy Vluggen wrote: SaaS is built on the idea of renting software instead of buying it.
So are lease cars, which I have exactly because of what you said
A lease car of €350 a month or a house for €1000 a month is quite a price difference though.
Plus that a car is rarely a good investment while a house usually is.
Especially now that interest is so low.
Anyway, I bought a house some six years ago and it costs me close to nothing now 
My car is actually more expensive than my house ever was
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