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Jörgen Andersson wrote: The solution is to find a balance that does ruin as little as possible, while keeping as few as possible sick, until we have a vaccine.
Yes, but very difficult to do.
It would mean people act logically and following recommendations, and you already saw what happened just before the lockdowns  
Jörgen Andersson wrote: But humanity has raised from the ashes many times before.
I know... And some elders in my family tell we should still consider us lucky, WW II was worse.
And I suppose they are right.
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And it depends on the individual country. Some countries it may be the best solution, but for others it may not. Europe and the US is a collection of individually minded single identities with each identity having to deals with its own issues. Reinfection is a fact of life in those areas due to their openings. China looks like it's going to try and keep the numbers low and manageable until a vaccine is available due to the limited travel outside of china.
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I have always practices social distancing. Nothing new for me. 
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... and has for 2 days - I hate notifications, just send me an email - so I thought I'd let it do it's thang while I made an Espresso.
Downloading ... 10.84GB 
When did software get so silly that an update patch needs ten gig of data? Holy ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ...
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Oh.. you mean the old update?
For a moment I thought I had missed one, haha!
Strange though, mine updated in minutes... 
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Selecting all in the installation shows over 100Gb of things to be downloaded and installed. So an update of 10Gb is a plausible size
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Quote: When did software get so silly that an update patch needs ten gig of data?
It really needs few megabytes, the remaining space is filled with garbage.
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CPallini wrote: They said: "You know that guy Griff who backs up anything?"
You are evil Carlo  
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Beelzebub, you know.
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They found out that he just cleaned out his harddrive.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Downloading ... 10.84GB 
That's because a lot of highly skilled people from different ms departments -- in fact, from ms offices all over the world -- have been involved in designing and crafting the updated files to the point where they are so perfect and complete that they will not need to be updated for, oh, at least three months.
If you unpack the installer and read the files in the appropriate application, you can see for yourself the level of perfectionism that has gone into delivering superb quality, and that the design is sheer genius.
The total content of the installer is eight icons and a 1.2kb text file describing them.
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I know it's f***ing ridiculous
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Quote: Downloading ... 10.84GB
I suppose it depends on how many modules you have installed. It was just about 1 GB in my case, but I only work in WPF and C++.
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In the gaming world people would be asking "why such a tiny patch this week?"
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dandy72 wrote: In the gaming world people would be asking "why such a tiny patch this week?"
Not really... the biggest I have seen was for destiny 2 changing the season 3.6 Gb update or Dota 2 after 8 Months inactivity from my side it was around 2,5 Gb
Still a 33%
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I'm not much of a gamer myself these days so I can't really make the best case. But I do keep hearing about console gamers, especially, who get to "pre-download" games so they already have it by release date, and then in the end, by the time said game is released, they have to download patches that are as massive as the games themselves.
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That's true for pc too. But usually for pre-releases and beta games
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I think it might depend on which workloads (features) you have installed. My update wat about 1.2 GB last week.
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I noticed the nag last week and ignored it. My VS 2019 update download was only 1.7GB!  ...still a lot better than 10+GB.
I remember when the whole lot would fit on a CD!
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So do I - but the CD copy of version 1.0 that I bought came in a two foot long box that was mostly manuals ...
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This is so dumb. As long as you get your work done I wouldn't care if you were headbanging to Slayer while taking fat bong rips. If you don't get your work done, well that's what HR is for, and with unemployment skyrocketing it shouldn't be hard to find a replacement.
Article wrote: If daily tasks aren’t completed, workers "will be subject to disciplinary action, up to and including termination."
Exactly, so if this is the case why do you need desktop screenshots, audio/video monitoring, key loggers, etc? None of those measure or benchmark task metrics.
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<blank>'em. ~25 years ago I was working 3'rd shift and went to the back office, for some reason, and discovered a printout. It showed everything that I had been typing the last couple of hours.
So <blank>'em, all it showed was that I was doing my job.
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depends on the work, if it's time sensitive or say 'customer' facing (customer service hours) then perhaps some limited use
but for developer types / project or 'get it done by-' tasks
well it's the same as The Lounge[^]
... stupid bosses that think "work from home" means 9 AM you dutifully sit in front of your machine and stay there (minus allowed breaks) till 5 PM (or whatever the work hours are).
... stupid bosses that insist on daily meetings now even more during work at home to track day by day that you are doing the above.
as a [project based] contractor I can spend 5 days watching shows, and do my 40 hours in a weekend,
in reality often waking about 10-11AM, alternated working, watching TV, housework, shopping... till 3AM (in fact nearly always starting my 'day' with non work to get my eye in and brain fog out)
- sometimes all 7 days of the week or longer 10 days, 20 days, 30 days no breaks
-- but there may also be some days no work at all (in fact some days no computer at all)
adding up the hours of work in "a week" way more than 40 hours, in a month 200 - 400 hours - and delivering on time (usually earlier) where a ETA was provided.
personally I'm more productive 'solving some problems' watching say The Simpsons than starting at a page of code
... looking at code I get stuck 'this is the solution so why doesn't it work? how do I fix THIS?'
... not looking at 'this solution' means my mind can wander OTHER solutions, not trapped by what's in my eyes. (and yes I mean 'wander' not 'wonder').
I've solved many hard problems watching movies riding my bike, taking a crap - more than staring at code. (also why I start my day avoiding work, I organize myself.)
As to "use this machine (or VPN) for your work" [crap installed],
- as much as possible I'll put it aside and use my own
- where I can't I expect the right to de-crap it and add my own stuff on it.
... secrecy, data protection?
- if you don't accept a signed NDA just because I'm at home you think I'll be any less honest sitting in a cubicle in your office?
... when you hire say a builder to add an extension to your house do you supply his tools? do you supply a plumber the piping, grommets and glue to fix your toilet leaking?
-- why should software be any different?
if your boss doesn't trust you, unless you're desperate for work they can get stuffed.
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Synonyms: pest, plague, people
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lopatir wrote: in reality often waking about 10-11AM, alternated working, watching TV, housework, shopping... till 3AM (in fact nearly always starting my 'day' with non work to get my eye in and brain fog out)
- sometimes all 7 days of the week or longer 10 days, 20 days, 30 days no breaks
-- but there may also be some days no work at all (in fact some days no computer at all)
That's the thing: in this profession, you do your best work when your brain is ready for it, not the clock.
If your manager is happy with poorer-quality work for forty hours, rather than higher-quality work for thirty-five, he should go and manage a pig farm.
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