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Mark_Wallace12-Mar-20 0:40

12-Mar-20 0:40

Time for a bit of outside-the-box-type thinking.

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Richard Deeming12-Mar-20 0:57

Richard Deeming

12-Mar-20 0:57

Inside the box, surely? $Shucks | :-\$

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Mark_Wallace12-Mar-20 1:03

12-Mar-20 1:03

Well, yes, but too many bloody forringers don't get cricket references.

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ZurdoDev12-Mar-20 0:59

ZurdoDev

12-Mar-20 0:59

Mark_Wallace wrote:
That is well over the top.

Why? It's OK for the australian convict to be rude but not the nice American? You are racist.

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Mark_Wallace12-Mar-20 1:01

12-Mar-20 1:01

Jovially throwing in "bloody Americans" is not, by any means, on the same level as personal abusing another CP member.

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ZurdoDev12-Mar-20 1:25

ZurdoDev

12-Mar-20 1:25

Mark_Wallace wrote:
Jovially

But why wasn't the response jovial as well? It's all in how you read it. I thought the response was funny and didn't take it as a direct abuse of the member.

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Daniel Pfeffer12-Mar-20 2:41

Daniel Pfeffer

12-Mar-20 2:41

ZurdoDev wrote:
It's OK for the Australian convict to be rude but not the nice American?

The racism of low expectations? Big Grin | :-D

(MM may have strong convictions, but I doubt he's a convict)

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Logitech Misadventure

gggustafson11-Mar-20 12:14

gggustafson

11-Mar-20 12:14

I have a Logitech wireless keyboard (K800) and mouse (M310). Recently I have experienced the loss of the settings for the K800 (specifically the disabling of both Caps-Lock and Ins keys). In desperation (after searching the Internet), I called Logitech Customer Support. After a fairly long conversation (1+ hours), I uninstalled all Logitech products and downloaded the latest version of Logitech Options. As an administrator I set the Caps-Lock and Ins keys disabled, and restarted the machine as a standard user. All worked as expected.

What went wrong? I was advised that Logitech updated the firmware for the K800 and M310 devices. Then, wholly separately, they made available an updated Logitech Options version (8.10.154). I was unaware of the firmware update and, because I use Windows 7, I was not advised through Windows Update. I was also advised that settings should be made from an administrator account.

I am disappointed in Logitech. They created turmoil for users of their wireless products. I suggested a solution to the CSR that I doubt will get to the developers. Too bad - I like the wireless keyboard and mouse.

Gus Gustafson

Mark_Wallace11-Mar-20 20:25

11-Mar-20 20:25

I don't get it. How can not installing an update (AKA "not making changes") make something stop working?

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gggustafson12-Mar-20 2:03

gggustafson

12-Mar-20 2:03

If a firmware update is independent of a software update, the problem may occur. Generally between the time that the firmware is updated automatically and the time that the software is manually updated. In the case of Logitech, the firmware controls the actual devices and the software (Logitech Options) is the windows application that allows its users to communicate with the devices. So, if the two (software and firmware) get out of sync, difficulties can arise.

What is worse in this case is that the Win 7 user is unaware of the firmware update and does not know of the need to update the application software. Logitech should have been aware of the still-large number of Win 7 installations. Further, they should have been aware that Windows Updates is no longer applicable to Win 7. Their firmware design should have included a notification that a software update was required.

Gus Gustafson

Mark_Wallace12-Mar-20 3:13

12-Mar-20 3:13

Ah, gotcha.

It's yet another windows update problem.

Why am I surprised?

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kalberts12-Mar-20 7:10

kalberts

12-Mar-20 7:10

I have been using Logitech keyboards and mice for at least 20 years, but never ever experienced any automatic firmware update. Maybe I never checked off that I wanted any such service, or maybe none of all the Logitech pieces that I have owned over the years have had any firmware update.

Or possibly that there has been a lot, but they have been so quiet that I never knew of them.

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gggustafson12-Mar-20 7:23

gggustafson

12-Mar-20 7:23

For the last years, Microsoft supported Win 7. I think the problem with failing to save settings was Logitech self-inflicted. I don't know how they did it. I just know what I said in the original post.

Gus Gustafson

OriginalGriff11-Mar-20 10:57

OriginalGriff

11-Mar-20 10:57

Must like it hot: Wasp-76b: The exotic inferno planet where it 'rains iron' - BBC News[^]

Holy moley Batman! Twice the width of Jupiter, has a year of 43 hours ... and it rains iron. Sounds better than Magaluf!

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phil.o11-Mar-20 11:27

phil.o

11-Mar-20 11:27

Must be nice, a planet whose magnetic field you can actually see.
I wonder whether it's water that rusts there, though.

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OriginalGriff11-Mar-20 21:08

OriginalGriff

11-Mar-20 21:08

phil.o wrote:
a planet whose magnetic field you can actually see

I'm afraid not: Curie Temperature of Iron - The Physics Factbook[^]
I only know about this from watching "Forged In Fire" - the loss of attraction to a magnet in steel can be used to detect when it has reached the quenching point.

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dandy7212-Mar-20 4:16

dandy72

12-Mar-20 4:16

phil.o wrote:
I wonder whether it's water that rusts there, though.

Given "its dayside temperatures exceeding 2400C", I don't think water has much of a chance of even existing there.

Mycroft Holmes11-Mar-20 12:40

Mycroft Holmes

11-Mar-20 12:40

OriginalGriff wrote:
Magaluf

Never having heard of the place I naturally did a lookup, I thought that beach setup was just something they put in horror movies, i'm astonished they actually exist.

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Mark_Wallace11-Mar-20 20:30

11-Mar-20 20:30

OriginalGriff wrote:
Holy moley Batman! Twice the width of Jupiter, has a year of 43 hours ... and it rains iron.

... And there is even less proof of its existence than for flying, pink elephants with giraffe-necks, rat-tails, dreadlocks, and subscriptions to the Financial Times.

If you believe anything at all that astronomers tell you, I'd like to have a chat with you about bridges.

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dandy7212-Mar-20 4:18

dandy72

12-Mar-20 4:18

Mark_Wallace wrote:
If you believe anything at all that astronomers tell you, I'd like to have a chat with you about bridges.

Astronomers, not astrologers.

kalberts12-Mar-20 7:12

kalberts

12-Mar-20 7:12

Would it be acceptable to nominate someone else than yourself?