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A team I knew followed Waterfallish Agile, whatever that meant.
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 How that works out?
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Apparently in most (looking at the Survey percentage) cases, it.....just works..
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Usually a mixed approach. We mostly call it agile even if we are not following agile actually. 
Just gets the requirement and trying to be agile.
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same here, most of the organization just do daily standup without any planning or retro meetings
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We don't need no methodologies
We don't need no process control
No stand up meetings in the hall
Managers leave the developers alone
Hey! Managers! Leave them developers alone!
All in all it's just more bullsh*t in the job.
All in all you're just grunt in the cog.
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all in all it's just another loop in the code!
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So both Scrum and Agile are listed. And I just so need to pick this itch to confuse myself and anger others.
Agile, or maybe confused with the Agile Manifesto, comes across as a methodology. Such as SOLID and Object Oriented. Agile can be implemented in different ways. (At least how this argument is going)
Scrum in contrast is taking the points of Agile and providing more lucid framework to follow. (Or just reasearching scrum predates the Agile manifesto and result of how some company was doing their work). So like programming language c#/java/php in contrast to OOP.
Long way to say, why is both Scrum and Agile listed as options?
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...because 90% of the companies using scrum are not really practicing agile? (they only think they are)
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Agile is a complete methodology and requires a team of at the very least 3 people working on the same project. It describes everything from sprint schedule to effort estimation and conflict management.
SCRUM defines only the time management of a project (sprints and meeting timings).
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Scrum is a subset of Agile.
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I have used Agile previously to great success (the Development Manager was a strong advocate of Agile). I have also used it to lesser success where it's not been consistently applied. At my current employment we don't really use any particular methodologies, but we do try to do Agile. We try to document the requirements and have irregular daily meetings (yes you read that right). It's all a bit hit and miss. We try to do Agile but don't do a very good job.
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To be honest, I don't know all the options. On the other hand, I think I have been in several of those along my career. 4 different companies, a lot of projects for a lot of different customers and working in / with people of several countries.
At the end... I have developed my own methodology just combining the parts that I though are/were useful in my own experience (or the experience of others around me).
I suppose I could resume it in two words: "Common Sense"
although often enough is not that common 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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Nelek wrote: Common Sense
Shame on you! What will management think come evaluations?
Get with the program, man.
Remember, all that glitters is not gold - but it makes it look like a deliverable . . .
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There is a target.
There are tools.
Aside from my personal creedo of not coding myself into a corner, what is done is whatever needs to be done.
The rules are simple: stable, serviceable, extensible.
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I do.
Of course, as Groucho said: "These are my principles if you don't like them, I have others."
cheers, Bill
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SOLID are coding principles, not a process
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A subtle blend of reactivity, pro-activity and retro-activity.
it's largely down to the RPM rate (requirement-changes per minute).
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Does anyone actually perform Agile the way it was intended?
We are an Agile(ish) shop and it works for us. We are not strict Agile per the definition(s), but we have borrowed key features and we strive to stick with that.
15 signs you’re doing agile wrong | InfoWorld[^]
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The team in the office next to mine does, and it works* exceedingly well for them.
*I had a long chat with their team leader, I think he can make any methodology work because he is a good team leader period. He just finds Agile more intuitive than other methods.
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15 signs you're doing agile wrong?
You just know that whatever is past its best when pundits start to write articles like that.
It's a bit like "10 signs of a failing company" by the ex CEO of Toshiba Tsuyoshi Kawanishi; and he should know.
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First company I worked for used the A.N.A.R.C.H.Y. methodology, wich stands for Anarchy Reigns Supreme And Chaos Will Follow.
Then I worked as a consultant for a notorious manifacturer of unreliable cars powered by spaghetti and they used the M.I.C.R.O.M.A.N.A.G.E.M.E.N.T. methodology, which I can't say what it stands for because they only organized 941 meetings and are still undecided if the second letter is "Incompetent" or "Insane".
Thne I worked for a customer who was moody and remembered crucial details on the day of the release... the work was basically Extreme Programming even if it had no designation managed by a competent manager so it went smooth.
Now I'm working AGILE like anybody else does: not AGILE at all, too many meetings with a developement team sparse in 3 nations and 3 US states. The new manager seems competent and experienced though and she is striving to put some process control in all of this.
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