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Do they know the root cause yet? I mean, I know it's the battery, but is it the type, the wiring, a bad chipset (related to charging), circuit drawing too much power and overheating, bad phone design (trapping heat with battery compartment)?
I'm kind of wondering why this hasn't happened more (other manufacturers) and on more samsung phones.
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raddevus wrote: I'm kind of wondering why this hasn't happened more (other manufacturers) and on more samsung phones.
Probably because it's happened early and people quitted using it rather quickly.
Maybe they changed the design especially for Note 7, those things are BIG.
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I'm wondering too, if maybe it isn't Samsung's fault entirely.
Maybe they will find there is a chip in the battery circuit that came from certain production runs which isn't rated for expected current (due to bad QA) and then on those phones, they melt down.
That would be really unfortunate for Samsung. Hopefully, we'll hear more about a root cause, but often we do not.
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They hadn't issued a return call for certain batch numbers so it's probably a design issue. Thin hardware means less heat dissipation, while a big screen produces a lot of heat. Couple that with powerful processor and maybe a strong battery, so they thought they could have longer usage of high CPU power, and thin copper to save costs...
First edition Fiat Stilo caught fire when parked because the engine cooling fan was activated even with switched off car. Since there was as few copper as they could afford after 3-4 hours of functioning the circuit caught fire. Only in the concessionary my dad was working for six cars burned down in a week.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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thanks, those are some good points and interesting details. 
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Probably a construction error, the heat pipe from the charging circuit goes next to the battery, and with Quickcharge it gets hot.
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Thanks for chiming in. Interesting details. You'd think this would all be at the forefront of design knowing that they are pushing the limits of heat dissipation in such a small area. But, there are many factors when designing / developing. Probably indicates that there wasn't a lot of extreme QA.
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We'll probably never find out. Korean companies aren't known for their transparancy and besides they probably want to forget about this sorry episode and put it behind them as soon as they can.
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I thought I had found the perfect soundtrack for its commercials:
The Prodigy - Firestarter - YouTube[^]
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Perhaps it is running an infinite loop in the background.
One of my online teachers had told a joke about a processor manufacturer, about 25 years ago, who had a tagline - 'Our processor is so fast that it will run an infinite loop in two and a half minutes'. Well, the reality was that when you ran an infinite loop program on it, the processor would get so hot, that in precisely two and a half minutes, it would catch fire and melt.
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Halt and Catch Fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^]
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Good
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Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
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Every time someone has asked me if they should switch, I ask them one question: do you use iMessage? If the answer is "Yes," the Pixel decision becomes that much more difficult. Do you use iMessage?
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It has been a busy few weeks for the big tech companies making major announcements and we're not done yet. Microsoft announced today that it will host a Windows 10 event October 26th in New York City at 10:00 AM ET. I assume this means Apple will have an event on the 24th?
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While the price information is probably correct: [^], I can tell you from personal direct knowledge of Thailand that:
1. The iPhone 7 is not due to be officially released here until October 21, according to the Thailand Apple site, and AppleInsider.com; other sites here mention dates in September: go figure.
2. The price will probably be higher than that shown in the article; for the first month, I'd estimate at least 20% higher, as well as having low availability; I have no doubt supplies will be kept limited in the first month or so to harvest the gotta-buy-it wealthy set.
3. The figure quoted of a daily income of 2.4 US $ per hour (at 40 hrs. per week that would work out to about 384 US $ per month, or so ... about 13.5k baht per month) for Thailand would translate into a demographic that would start in the middle-class, and go up. Many bright young Thais with education are working for 8~12 k baht per month, more in the major cities; but, in the major cities cost of living is much higher. An unskilled day laborer here might make 300 baht per day (less than 10 US$), 400 baht if lucky.
Assuming the iPhone 7 128k is at least 50k baht at launch, and an income (high) of 20k baht per month, with cost of living at least 12k per month: do the math, and you'll see its preposterous to think that anyone who is not wealthy is going to be able to buy an iPhone 7 with 129 days of labor.
Given the questions I have about the accuracy of this hypothesized cost in Thailand, I am inclined to suspect the other figures quoted are also "optimistic."
However, yes, lots of young Thais are going to get one of these new wonders by hook, crook, tapping family, purchase plans with sky-high interest rates from wherever, purchase plans from phone companies where the ultimate total cost of ownership over some number of years will reach the stratosphere. Worst case: illegal loan-sharks who play rough if the cash is not forthcoming, and, of course, jacked-up interest rates.
And the hi-so's here, oh yeah, they'll have one. Other folks, within a few months will have the clones made by the wizards of Guangzhou which will have nice looking facades over their Android innards; these become much more difficult to get under the current government, but Vientiane Laos is full them, and they are sold "under the table" in the mega-malls in Bangkok.
but, I will not have one, that's for sure. Apple: no like. Mobile phone: no like. I do have the cheapest model Samsung with no camera, no internet access. Home phone: no have.
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All I can say is that anyone stupid enough to spend half a year's income on a freaking phone deserves what they get.
In Israel, the price for an iPhone 7 128GB ranges from NIS 4,850 to NIS 5,500, which is about 50-60% of the average monthly income. Even that sum should, IMO, make people think twice about buying such a mobile (== easy to steal) device.
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--Winston Churchill
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Here is 1000+ € which can be more than 70% of monthly salary for some people.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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While Elon Musk's recent speech about the glories of Martian colonies is still echoing in our ears, we should take a moment to consider what it means to colonize a planet. It's not just about setting up some habitat pods and sucking water out of the regolith. Acquiring food and a livable environment are just as important as manufacturing rocket fuel The Red Planet needs environmental scientists.
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They are going to have to Environmentally science the sh*t out of it!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Don't let AGW "scientists" anywhere near it. 
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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And lets not forget basic necessities like TP and co....s
Marc
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And the basic human rights: life, liberty, and facebook...
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The one-legged hopping bot might seem like an automated version of a pogo stick, but actually has some interesting tech under the hood to keep it from falling over after a few seconds. Well let me tell you the wonderful thing about Tiggers ...
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I fail to see to similitude with a tiger....
Other than that, it does looks cool, though lack some autonomy...
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Word that Microsoft is shutting down its line of Band devices could be a blow to the future of mainstream enterprise wearables. Not in China, it seems.
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