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10-Sep-13 2:27

Hello,

I have an idea to make cloud software update service for desktop apps.
Most of the apps require updates, and i don't know flexible update systems (If you know such solutions, please, let me know).

It consist of two parts:
Update client. Software component, that checks for updates (scheduled, on app start, etc), downloads them, and performs update. Update client is made as multiplatform SDK, that can be easily integrated into projects.

Update server. Holds updates on cloud storage. Has web-based UI, with access control, products/releases dashboard, and client update logs/reports.

Here are some features of it:
- SDK, that can be easily integrated to .Net/C++/Java apps.
- Customisable update client
- Differential updates. Update is binary diff. So, it 20 MB file has a few changes, will be downloaded a few bytes, instead of full 20 Mb file
- Client update logs and reports
- Multiple products and releases
- Update rollback
- Integrated with MS Visual Studio and Elipse

What do you think about it?
If you are interested in such service, please send me your comments and suggestions.

Best regards,
Andrey Moskvichev V.

RedDk19-Sep-13 7:35

19-Sep-13 7:35

Don't take this the wronng way, but, since you asked and I get 10 points for answering (here in Discussions) as well as can now go on record as having answered a survey about a "trendy topic" of sorts ...

This whole cloud paradigm is doomed to fail. There.

And with any work on my part will fail sooner than later.

Andrey Moskvichev28-Sep-13 6:01

28-Sep-13 6:01

I know, that cloud services have a drawbacks, and how they are used today is not the best way.

But, can you explain, why do you think, that "This whole cloud paradigm is doomed to fail." ?

RedDk28-Sep-13 9:08

28-Sep-13 9:08

Sure Andrei,

Computers have been "online" since before 1980. General subscribers have been playing games through billed services and bulletin board posters have been placing peers on the alert through the years up until the turn of the century when the latest morph/changling of the proud parent "the internet", the cloud, was born. Since then the whole business of "connectivity" has blossumed into a billion dollar industry and everybody welcomed another venue to exploit this electronics gene-pool. But computers, aside from what one reads now, are calculating devices at a level just above electronics. And hopefully you'd agree with me being a coder and a CPian, that just to the left of any ethernet card or serial port device, growth of this technology is around speed and volume.

CPU and memory. Faster and more of something. And possibly smaller footprint.

Now look at the cloud. what is it? A storage device. It's an external "hard drive" to the computer. Instead of adding a drive to my stack I add a drive to an external location? Seems more like an unknown Ex on a map where I have little influence over maintenance and security. Average dunderheaded cloud user (the one who signs up to store stuff, his apps, his information, his things he's going to make available to others) there could just as easily plop another hard drive into his ccabinet and have locally, his way, when he wants it, out from under any eyes but his own, for a decade until it's full, all his stuff just as easily.

It's a conservative spin on an alarmingly liberal communicative yackety-yack non-sense-for-the-sake-connected-non-sense that I will stand behind. Frankly, noone's going to chuck their hulking 100lb stack of hardrives and their gigantic 6.0GHz CPU and the 256GB of RAM they call "MyComputer" just because "cloud" storage is free now.

Mr. Deasey, what say we now ... ?

Andrey Moskvichev28-Sep-13 9:21

28-Sep-13 9:21

I'm thinking about cloud as reliable and fast external storage, but not as hard drive.

Instead of running my own server, or buying a webhosting, that is more expensive and less reliable, i use a cloud storage.

RedDk28-Sep-13 9:26

28-Sep-13 9:26

I lay prone on my belly with my thirty-ought-six and a full magazine waiting for the enemy to come up over the trench. There are many trees in view in directions all over the horizon most defoliated by precious weapon battle. I can hear the enemy coming my way, his tromping and plodding as he approaches signals me I must steel my nerves. I aim by dropping my eye to the gunsight.

I squeeze the trigger at the first sight of a beret.

There goes another tree limb. Suspicious | :suss:

Andrey Moskvichev28-Sep-13 9:30

28-Sep-13 9:30

About software update framework itself.

The main idea is that developers don't need to spend time writing their own update system.
And they don't need to buy servers or store files on webhosting.

RedDk28-Sep-13 9:32

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28-Sep-13 9:32

Yeah,

Ok. Tolstoy or Pasternak. Choose 'yer poison ...

Newstein21-Aug-13 21:09

Newstein

21-Aug-13 21:09

I'm creating an android app which will feed the users data from a MYSQL database via a REST service(created using java).
Can you guys provide a economical web hosting solutions for my needs?

jschell22-Aug-13 8:20

jschell

22-Aug-13 8:20

Are you managing, installing, etc the database or do you intend to rely on the hosting service provider for that?

Newstein22-Aug-13 20:39

Newstein

22-Aug-13 20:39

What's the difference between the two?
I mean which one will provide optimal behaviour?

jschell23-Aug-13 12:49

jschell

23-Aug-13 12:49

Newstein wrote:
I mean which one will provide optimal behaviour?

That is a meaningless question because "optimal" is a subjective term.

Obviously one difference is that if the hosting provider is responsible for the database then they insure that the server is up, that it is backed up, that it has reasonable security restrictions, etc. The downside is that it will be limited in some way.