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Tridip Bhattacharjee wrote: in this case why do i need to create static class rather we can create static function inside in any non-static class and my purpose will be solved.
No, think about the Directory-class in the .Net framework. Or the File-class. They are both static because they offer functionalities and not data.
Tridip Bhattacharjee wrote: i firmly believe that there must be some solid reason when user has to create static class.
I do too. IMO this happens as soon as a class shoulde provide functionalities instead of information.
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u said : - think about the Directory-class in the .Net framework. Or the File-class. They are both static because they offer functionalists and not data.
it will be more help full for me if u come with sample code for static class which show me the importance of creating it instead of create a static method inside in any non-static class. thanks
tbhattacharjee
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Tridip Bhattacharjee wrote: it will be more help full for me if u come with sample code for static class which show me the importance of creating it instead of create a static method inside in any non-static class. thanks
Can we keep a normal conversation level with friendly sound? thanks.
I made a practical example. Since I am volunteer answering questions I kindly ask you to read Dave's link. It is nothing personal but I can't submit code for anyone asking for it. I personally mpostly do this when the OP has already submitted a bit of code to start fom.
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you said to read Dave's link....but where it is ? thanks
tbhattacharjee
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Here[^]. Right below this post.
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A normal class is instantiated to an object and you can create many objects with that class. (thus you can see a class as a template for creating objects, each with its own properties)
A static class on the other hand cannot create objects at all. it can hold an algorithm (functions/methods) or some data, but it doesn't belong to anything.
Car red_car = new Car();
Car blue_car = new Car();
red_car.Speed = 100;
red_car.Color = Red;
blue_car.Speed = 65;
blue_car.Color = Blue;
red_car.Accelerate(-25);
blue_car.Accelerate(10);
double radius = 3.6;
double circumfence = MathConstants.CalculateCircleCircumfence(radius);
double americanpie = 3.141599999;
MathConstants.PI = americanpie;
The real world is less black and white than this, but I hope it makes some issues clearer for you.
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most of the book never explain how memory is allocated for things we use.
i think no memory is allocated for class structure including member function and data member. memory is allocated when we create instance of class.....am i right ?
1) suppose if my class structure is like below one then just tell me how memory will be allocated ?
public class Employee
{
double mydata = 0;
private string _FirstName;
public string FirstName
{
get { return _FirstName; }
set { _FirstName = value ; }
}
private string _LastName;
public string LastName
{
get { return _LastName; }
set { _LastName = value; }
}
public double CalculateValue()
{
return mydata ;
}
}
2) so when i create a instance of employee class then how memory will be allocated for property, data member and member function ?
3) when this line will execute like Employee emp = new Employee(); then how memory will be allocated and also tell me memory will be allocated for which member of that class ?
4) when we call emp.FirstName ="blah" then how memory will be allocated ? and how long data will be stored in memory?
5) any memory is allocated for any interface means IStuden ?
6) we know that for any class instance memory is allocated in heap not stack but i heared that pointer is stored in heap but actual data is stored in stack. so any one can tell me with example how data is stored in heap & stack ? and also in some cases data is only stored in stack.....why ??
7) why one should create static class rather user can declare static method in non-static class and can access those method like
className.MethodName() ? so when and in what kind of scenario user has to create a static class ? is there any advantage of creating
static class ?
i know i have too many question. so i apologized but if possible please give answer in details. thanks
tbhattacharjee
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I think there are many questions and some of them are not a simple answer, so I will try to resume.
Any code that should be loaded (like a method) will eventually use memory. I say eventually because it may not have been jitted yet, but when it is, it will use memory. But that will happen only once. It is not important if you have 1 instance or 1000 instances. The method is only once on memory.
So, for instance, only the field sizes occupy memory. An int is 4 bytes (so a class with 2 ints will occupy 8 bytes + the instance "header"). Such header is variable and I am not sure on the size... I think it is 12 bytes on 32-bit computers and 16 on 64-bit computers.
Any reference (the "pointer") is 4 bytes on 32-computers and 8 bytes on 64-bit computers.
But when you have a string field, in you class you will have 4 or 8 bytes for the reference (a null reference still uses such bytes, as zeros). Then, if you have the string filled, you will have: 4 or 8 bytes to reference a string.
Such string will have 12/16 bytes of its header + the length of the string * 2 (each character is 2 bytes) + some extra info on the string itself (I think the hashcode, for example, is always stored).
Also, virtual methods (and interfaces are included) occupy memory for their vtable... again, it is once for the class, it is not important if you have 1 instance or 1 million.
About stack and heap... in fact, any value type can be stored in the stack, and the reference can also be stored on stack... but when you already have an objet with an int, such in is not on the stack... it is already on the heap. So that means: value types and the reference themselves are kept on the "actual" location (stack or heap) while the created reference type object is always on the heap, at another location.
About the static classes, there are some scenarios.
First, a static class can never be instantiated. It looks better to create a static class than to create a normal class with a private constructor to avoid it from being instantiated.
Second, extension methods require static classes. You can't put them on non-static classes, so you may have such need.
Aside from that, there is no real difference. A static method on a normal class is as static as a static method on a static class. It is simple a matter of design choices.
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thanks for your answer & time. few things got clear after reading your answer but still few area is not clear and those are.
1) Any code that should be loaded (like a method) will eventually use memory. I say eventually because it may not have been jitted yet, but when it is, it will use memory. But that will happen only once. It is not important if you have 1 instance or 1000 instances. The method is only once on memory.
we know that JIT compiler generate machine code at run time. so when i will create a instance of employee class then how much memory will be allocated?
when we call method like instance.methodname() then memory will be allocated for method? but how much memory will allocated i just can not visualize.
u said - The method is only once on memory. how long method will be on memory ? until we dispose that instance ?
another thing u did not say like if local variable declare in method where they will be stored....in heap or stack?
2) u said :- Any reference (the "pointer") is 4 bytes on 32-computers and 8 bytes on 64-bit computers.
can u plzz explain in more detail the point 2 with sample code. which references u r talking about here.
a class may have many data member like string,double,float & datetime etc.
3) u said :- Also, virtual methods (and interfaces are included) occupy memory for their vtable... again, it is once for the class, it is not important if you have 1 instance or 1 million.
i just like to know how memory is occupied for interface ? because interface is abstract not concrete. can u please come with sample code just to show me when & how memory is allocated for interface
4) u said :- value types and the reference themselves are kept on the "actual" location (stack or heap) while the created reference type object is always on the heap, at another location.
the above point 4 not at all clear. we know when we create instance then memory is allocated for that instance is on heap not stack. please discuss the point 4 in more details with example.
i apologize that many area still not clear and here i discuss with point wise. so when u give answer then please give it point wise and also with example for better visualization.
if possible give me some links of site from where class, instance and memory allocation doubts can be more clear. thanks
tbhattacharjee
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1. The method must be loaded into memory (jitted) once for a method to run. So, if the method is already in memory, doing instance.methodname() does not allocates any memory (if the method allocates memory when executing it is another story).
But, how much memory for the jit? Well, that depends on the size of the method... I don't know exactly, but it is sure that a return x; will be pretty small.
The method is usually on memory forever once you execute it. You can dispose all the objects, you may force garbage collections, but loaded assemblies remain in memory. (there are collective assemblies, but that's far away from normal usage).
2.
string x = "Test";
string y = x;
"Test" is only once in memory. Both x and y are the references to "Test".
x and y will each one occupy 4 bytes of the stack (if they are declared in the body of a method) or will add 4 bytes to the size of the class/struct where they are declared, if the computer is 32 bits. If the computer is 64bits, then the size of x and y will be 8 (a 64-bit address).
3. When you receive an object of type ISomeInterface... it is surely of a concrete type, right? But, how the someInterface.Call() finds the ConcreteClass.Call()?
There is such VirtualTable for the interface, which in fact has the address (again, 4 or 8 bytes) of the real method.
In fact, I don't know how many size implementing an interface (note that: implementing... 3 classes that implement ISomeInterface means there is 3 times the size of such interface-implementation required), but each method that exist in the interface will probably add 4 or 8 bytes for their address, but it is possible that .Net does some optimizations to reduce this (I really don't know).
4. I already answered it on the answer to the other question. If you do new SomeType() and such type has an int field, such int field will be in the heap memory of SomeType.
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Hi,
I am building up reliable multicast file transfer tool. Please let me know any library available in c# for forward error correction algorithm.
Regards,
Raghu Sunkara.
s
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Have you looked at ZeroMQ and using epgm binding?
If at first you don't succeed, look for directions in the trash.
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Hi,
Thanks for reply. i havent played with ZeroMQ. As a beginer i would like to know, will ZeroMq solves reliable multicast file transfer problem? Please let me know waiting for your reply.
Regards,
Raghu Sunkara.
s
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Need to get the code to implement remote desktop using VNC protocol in dot net
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Try the VNC web site for details.
Use the best guess
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See here[^].
That's a library that implements VNC, and you can use it in .NET; you'd still have to write a client to use it.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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You could use DotNetVNC/[^].
A similar question has been posted in here before[^]. You might want to use the search function before next time.
Or you use VNC#[^], as Eddy mentioned before.
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Hello
here is a little difficulty:-
there is a program:- (source:pg 750: C# 4 Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt , McGrawHill )
using System;
using System.Threading;
using System.Threading.Tasks;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Collections;
using System.Linq;
using System.Text;
namespace scratchpad3
{
class Program
{
public static void Main()
{
int[] a = { 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 };
MyThread mt1 = new MyThread("Child #1", a);
MyThread mt2 = new MyThread("Child #2", a);
mt1.Thrd.Join();
mt2.Thrd.Join();
}
}
class SumArray
{
int sum;
object lockOn = new object();
public int SumIt(int[] nums)
{
lock (lockOn)
{
sum = 0;
for (int i = 0; i < nums.Length; i++)
{
sum += nums[i];
Console.WriteLine("Running total for " + Thread.CurrentThread.Name + " is " + sum);
Console.Read();
Thread.Sleep(10);
}
return sum;
}
}
}
class MyThread {
public Thread Thrd;
int[] a;
int answer;
static SumArray sa = new SumArray();
public MyThread(string name, int[] nums)
{
a = nums;
Thrd = new Thread(this.Run);
Thrd.Name = name;
Thrd.Start();
}
void Run()
{
Console.WriteLine(Thrd.Name + " starting.");
answer = sa.SumIt(a);
Console.WriteLine("Sum for " + Thrd.Name + " is " + answer);
Console.WriteLine(Thrd.Name + " terminating.");
Console.Read();
}
}
}
the o/p is given as;-
Child #1 starting.
Running total for Child #1 is 1
Child #2 starting.
Running total for Child #1 is 3
Running total for Child #1 is 6
Running total for Child #1 is 10
Running total for Child #1 is 15
Running total for Child #2 is 1
Sum for Child #1 is 15
Child #1 terminating.
Running total for Child #2 is 3
Running total for Child #2 is 6
Running total for Child #2 is 10
Running total for Child #2 is 15
Sum for Child #2 is 15
Child #2 terminating.
My difficulty is at line that is starred
that line shows a delegate but you see in the form: Thrd = new Thread(this.Run);
shouldn't this be: Thrd = new Thread(this.Run()); ---- Is this a paradigm shift or ----????????????????????
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As is explained here[^], the argument to the Thread class is A ThreadStart delegate that represents the methods to be invoked when this thread begins executing.
So long as you are pointing to a method that exists and is visible to this class, you don't need to worry about ().
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Hello Abhinab
If you may put it in length slightly, it will help me 
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Yea another aspect
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You're not calling the function at that point, so no parentheses.
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Calling a method is one thing. Getting the method "pointer" is another thing.
When you create a thread, you want the Thread to execute a method. You should not execute the method yourself. So, you give a method name, not a call, to the thread.
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I want to use this code
TextBox1.DataBindings.Add("Text",DataTable,"FName");
in web application project but it does,t have the library.in web form the library is in the system.windows.forms.controlbindingscoll… but I can,t handle it in web application.what is the solution?
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