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Pointless discussion. Just use an appropriate tool for the job in hand.
Kevin
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They are actually getting more. Over christmas I threw Visual Studio off my notebook, along with the rest of the Mickeysoft stuff. And then I got myself a nice free IDE, the Open Watcom C++ compiler and tons of open source libraries.
Ok, the Watcom compiler once was one of the best you could have, but probably has not kept up well after it was not commercial anymore. It probably will eventually have to be replaced, but for now it is a pleasure to use it again.
Farewell Mickeysoft, and thanks for all the fish 
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Check out clang[^], although (unless you fancy struggling with the hell that is GNU on Windows) you may need to get MSVC back on to get it built.
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Rutvik Dave wrote: I thought they are long gone... and we (C# devs) are the cool guys 
I just showed a 1920x1200 full screen Mandelbrot renderer to my C# coworkers that allowed you to zoom in using the mouse wheel, and left-click-drag to pan around. Works at 50 frames per second using double precision math so you can zoom in to the point where the whole set would be the size of the orbit of Pluto. Possible due to it being coded in Microsoft's C++AMP and exectuted on a high end AMD graphics card. Whos Cool Now! 
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Ya ya ya... Whatever...!
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I saw that same sample code in Visual C++ 2012. It is extremely cool. I wish I understood the Direct X components of that software.
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I wrote my own C++/AMP routine because all the samples I saw only used single precision floating point which gives you a very shallow zoom before you can't generate any more detail. There isn't much to the DirectX side, just setting up the device, the thing which I found confused others when they looked at the code was the C++ Lambda function which you can find described here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_function#C.2B.2B[^]
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I bet that the vast majority of you, C# developers don't know C++, while the vast majority of us, the C++ developers do know C#. What does that tell about you and us, huh?
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I completely agree with you. Once you learn C++, C# and Java got really easy to learn.
Happy Programming
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Absolutely correct.
C# and it's ilk are just cheap knock-offs of the real thing.
The most realistic analogy fathomable is that it's much like a comparing plastic inflatable vs. a real woman.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: comparing plastic inflatable vs. a real woman.
Meaning C# has fewer holes? Yes.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Meaning C# has fewer holes? Yes.
I'll take your expert opinion on the concept of holes in inflatable plastic women.
But it's more like for C#, all you need to do is Close Your Eyes and Pretend - and clean up your mess later!
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Hey I know Turbo C++, does that count? 
I love those white fonts in blue background, when I was in school
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Marius Bancila wrote: I bet that the vast majority of you, C# developers don't know C++, while the
vast majority of us, the C++ developers do know C#. What does that tell about
you and us, huh?
Tells me that C# devs can live without C++, but C++ devs can't live without C#.
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Tells me we're way too religious about technology, though we shouldn't.
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Marius Bancila wrote: you, C# developers don't know C++,
Essentially true for me; I dabbled in C++, but it was never anything I needed and just plain C paid the bills.
But C#, that's a C beater. 
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Live in fear, knave.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Rutvik Dave wrote: nd we (C# devs) are the cool guys
I agree: you are the cool guys while we are the real men.
Veni, vidi, vici.
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CPallini wrote: we are the real men
Oh, I doubt that, because why is your skin is looking this much green then?
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I guess the survey tells us more about The Codeproject than about anything else.
I hope these statistics are not going to be used to throw this site out of balance, but to find ways to attract content for the topics, which are not so well represented here!
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Wolfgang_Baron wrote: the survey tells us more about The Codeproject
Yes, and only we who take an interest in the poll.
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By what criterion are these the top ten? And not including VB is invalidates the poll; include as many are necessary to include VB -- top fifty if necessary.
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VB is in at least the top five in our operation!
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I don't see any problem.
VB isn't included because this poll is about programming languages.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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