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I have a PIII 664 MHz, 256 RAM, 20gig HD and a 19" monitor. For my line of work (Web dev (ASP.NET), web design and word processing (specs)) it is quite ample. It runs Windows XP and any .NET stuff perfectly fine.
Another monitor would be useful and some more RAM for when I get mammoth Photoshop designs, but otherwise for code editing and compiling in VS.NET it all chugs along smoothly.
Half Life during lunch-time LAN games also works very well.
And yes I have tried XP on some P4s and yes it is faster but only marginally so, nothing fantastic.
Frankly the only new gadgets and hardware I want are for my camera 
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
My photoSIG portfolio[^]
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Hey.. I'm still running with a PII 333Mhx with 256 MB ram.. poor me... at home.
In college we have some kickass machines... and 50 new dells just came in the door.
2.8Ghz, 1Gig ram, 19inch falt screens [decent ones], DVD+CD-RW, 80 gig [very fast] HDD's.
Regards,
Brian Dela 
Run naked in the snow until you're sweating like a stuck pig and can't seem to catch your breath. When the flu becomes pneumonia, they can cure that with a shot. - Roger Wright
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lol.. Come to Ireland
The Computer facilities is this college are class. Almost all the machines are less then a year old and 90% are P4's about 2.5 Gig with 512MB min.
Regards,
Brian Dela
Run naked in the snow until you're sweating like a stuck pig and can't seem to catch your breath. When the flu becomes pneumonia, they can cure that with a shot. - Roger Wright
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Brian Delahunty wrote:
I'm still running with a PII 333Mhx with 256 MB ram..
ROTFL how does it feel?
May the Source be with you
Sonork ID 100.9997 sijinjoseph
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Sijin wrote:
ROTFL how does it feel?
Pure sh*tty.
Regards,
Brian Dela
Run naked in the snow until you're sweating like a stuck pig and can't seem to catch your breath. When the flu becomes pneumonia, they can cure that with a shot. - Roger Wright
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How can you say that ? Even the guy down the road has 1 gHz. I want to be the alpha Geek, and for that, 2 gHz is the bare minimum.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer.
- Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael
P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not
as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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I think I'm pretty spoiled with nice hardware...
At work I have: dual P4 2.8GHz, 512MB RAM, 80GB HDD, dual 21inch monitors, nVidia Quadro4.
+ P3 700Mhz, 512MB RAM, 20 GB HDD, GeForce2GTS, 19inch monitor
At home: P4 2.53GHz, 512MB RAM, 80GB HDD, 19inch monitor, ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
+ P2 450Mhz, 512 MB RAM, 40 + 13 GB HDD, GeForce2, 17inch montor
All these machines are really nice to have when you're developing, debugging, testing, etc.
But one has to be very careful not to let the minimum system specs for the enduser of your apps, rush
to extreme heights!
But then again... nothing beats having the best tools available for your job
/Peen
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Read the question -> What would you buy?
Your absolut correct that your machine is enough but what if you go shopping for a brand new computer for the next years?;)
Try this @ home. (B&B)
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KarstenK wrote:
Read the question -> What would you buy?
I know, I made a mistake, misread the question.
KarstenK wrote:
Your absolut correct that your machine is enough but what if you go shopping for a brand new computer for the next years?
Then I will get the best price, basically any computer on sale now (you cannot get anything below a PIII 1.4 gig nowdays) will be capable for a good few years. So it is pointless buying a P4 2.8 gig monster with a huge markup because it is brand new.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
My photoSIG portfolio[^]
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Paul Watson wrote: < 1ghz works for me
Really? Sorry, I'm a little late to respond.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·.
Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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Yes, at the time.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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I voted for 4 GHz, as in 2x2 GHz. As someone mentioned below, if you're writing multithreaded software (like I do), IMO you absolutely must have a dual CPU machine for the testing purposes alone.
Dual monitors also make it so much easier to debug UI stuff, as you can have VC on one monitor and your app on the other.
--Mike--
I'm bored... Episode I bored.
1ClickPicGrabber - Grab & organize pictures from your favorite web pages, with 1 click!
My really out-of-date homepage
Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm
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I agree, but dual monitors are an ergonomic nightmare. I'm back to one, a 19".
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer.
- Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael
P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not
as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Christian Graus wrote:
I agree, but dual monitors are an ergonomic nightmare. I'm back to one, a 19".
I do not need two cpu's but I always want 2 seperate PC's.
I am using 2 computers for all testing purpose and remote debugging. I do not feel that this is an ergonomic nitghtmare. My desk is formed like an L and the both monitors are near to the edge.
Nothing can crash and influence my test szenario. Also I am able to test every OS, by switching it via Norton Ghost.
Martin
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Martin Richter wrote:
My desk is formed like an L and the both monitors are near to the edge.
How high they are is more important. If you physically more from one monitor/keyboard to the other, that is different to sharing two monitors at the same time. There is no ergonomic way to set up two monitors for dual use, it simply is not possible.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer.
- Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael
P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not
as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Agreed - whilst I've not tried it for long since I simply don't have space for two monitors, I found it difficult to work with having used a single monitor for so long. I'm happy enough with my laptop, and if I get down to some serious work, I plug in an external 17" flat panel, keyboard and mouse and away we go .
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Andrew.
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Michael, I Agree with you, I need the same, but in my country the Pc are very Expensive.....  For example, In this country, the machines wiht 1 Ghz are a news. When I need to buy Hardware, I buy it in The States, from my country, is the only way to buy new hard...
Best Regards
Carlos Antollini.
Pi Five[^]Creator
Sonork ID 100.10529 cantollini
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I totally agree with you about the dual processor stuff
Michael Dunn wrote:
Dual monitors also make it so much easier to debug UI stuff, as you can have VC on one monitor and your app on the other.
I dont have enough space for dual monitors on my desk 
But when debugging things like GUI where a dual monitor system would be nice, I use remote debugging against my plaptop (which I can fit on the desk  ) it's just as good as debugging on a dual monitor system.
- Anders
Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Michael Dunn wrote:
you absolutely must have a dual CPU machine for the testing purposes alone.
Dual monitors also make it so much easier to debug UI stuff, as you can have VC on one monitor and your app on the other.
 Can I put this through to my managers as a strong reccomendation from an industry expert?
- Nitron
"Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
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Actually, with a hyperthreading cpu (3.06Ghz here), its possible to test multithreaded processes with a single cpu. IMO, though, testing multithreaded software is nessesary on both single and multiple processor systems. Its not ever guaranteed that your program will be used on an SMP system if its a commercial app. Testing on single and dual systems, and now also hyperthreaded cpu's, is the neccesity. Hyperthreading has massive potential as well, and applications that properly utilize it can gain great boosts in performance and parallelism.
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You know... I'd say ALL of us write multithreaded software these days. At my previous job I'd never really need to worry about multiple CPU's... the software we developed was to run on computers in truck bays and we'd be lucky for those guys to have a Pentium 2 with an OS greater than Windows 95. These days the software I write is for our internal use and on hardware that we control completely (kiosks). So... yikes. Mulithreaded is difficult enough without having to consider multiple CPU's. Spinlocks... yay.
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I have a 2.4 GHz machine at work. It is plenty fast enough (compiles almost instantly) for the coding that I do, however if anyone tries to take my 21 inch monitor, they are dead.
Gary Kirkham
A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs
I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
Speed isn't everything
Next you'll be telling us size doesn't matter 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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The only people that say that are those that possess little ones. You know who you are... 
OTOH, speed kills! 
Gary Kirkham
A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs
I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
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