Re: Application Crashes during AppDomain.Unload - C# Discussion Boards

Pete O'Hanlon14-Apr-11 23:37

Pete O'Hanlon

14-Apr-11 23:37

If you're wanting to hold a sparse matrix, a linked list is an ideal structure. I've used them before to hold massively dimensioned matrices (e.g. for chemical engineering based systems). That was in C++ though - I am less than whelmed by the .NET implementation.

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devvvy14-Apr-11 23:42

devvvy

14-Apr-11 23:42

hum... good point... which brings me to the thought that there's no such thing as sparse list.

thanks

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Alan Balkany15-Apr-11 3:24

Alan Balkany

15-Apr-11 3:24

"Any real/practical scenario?"

In an upcoming project, I have a data stream coming in, and I "clump" elements for later processing. I don't know in advance how many clumps I'm going to have, and the later processing is only going to go through them sequentially.

I'm planning on using a linked list for this.

devvvy16-Apr-11 16:50

devvvy

16-Apr-11 16:50

hum... sequential access - why not a SortedList<int, Stream>? with key "Int" (for example DataId)

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Application Crashes during AppDomain.Unload [modified]

Alan Balkany18-Apr-11 4:07

Alan Balkany

18-Apr-11 4:07

1. A SortedList maintains an array for the elements like the generic List, so has the same disadvantages: The WHOLE list must be recopied every time it exceeds its capacity, which is slow, and which may waste space.

2. In addition, the SortedList maintains another copy of the the elements' keys for indexing, which takes even more space.

3. In my case, I don't need sorting, so this would be overhead for me, both in the time to keep it sorted, and in the extra memory required for the indexing.

Benny_Lava13-Apr-11 3:44

13-Apr-11 3:44

Hi,

I have a very strange problem, i have multiple AppDomains (plugin system).

Now at one point i raise an event from one of the plugin domains and the main AppDomain catches the event and calls another function in a seperate thread that Unloads the calling AppDomain.

The first thing that came to my mind is that the plugin domain somehow became the main application domain but it didn't i checked before the culprit line below for AppDomain.FriendlyName and it was different than the main application domain.

code:

private void UnloadDevicePluginDomain(DevicePlugin d)
        {
            Guid id = Guid.NewGuid();

            try {
                lock(locker_) {
                    if(d == null)
                        return;
                    id = d.DevicePluginId;
                    if(d.PluginDomain != null) {
                        //--Just to be on the safe side call plugin Dispose before App domain unload
                        if(d.DeviceInterface != null) {
                            d.DeviceInterface.Dispose();
                        }

                        if(d.WatchDogTimer != null)
                            d.WatchDogTimer.Dispose();

                        d.PluginDomain.UnhandledException -= new UnhandledExceptionEventHandler(DevicePluginCrashed);

                        AppDomain.Unload(d.PluginDomain);   //THE WHOLE APPLICATION CRASHES AT THIS LINE
                        devicePlugins_.Remove(d);
                    }
                }
            } catch (Exception ex) {
               // DOES NOT COME TO THIS PART
            }
        }

So the weird thing is that there is an exception handler and the line nonetheless crashes the whole application.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

-- Modified Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:39 PM

gavindon13-Apr-11 3:56

gavindon

13-Apr-11 3:56

I don't have an answer for ya but to save you from the pros slapping your wrist. put the code in a code block so they can read it easier.. and then they wont have to focus their answer on your code not being in a block Big Grin | :-D

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Benny_Lava13-Apr-11 9:41

13-Apr-11 9:41

Hehe,

Thanks, I stand corrected and my post also... Smile | :)

Not Active13-Apr-11 3:57

Not Active

13-Apr-11 3:57

Please format your code using the code block toolbar item.

Have you tried not removing the UnhandledException handler to see if the Exception is caught.

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Benny_Lava13-Apr-11 9:25

13-Apr-11 9:25

Hi,

Thanks for your reply, i'll try removing the UhandledException unsubscription.

P.S
Sorry i didn't put the code in a code block, I know about it just forgot to use it Smile | :)

BobJanova13-Apr-11 6:18

BobJanova

13-Apr-11 6:18

Now at one point i raise an event from one of the plugin domains and the main AppDomain catches the event and calls another function in a seperate thread that Unloads the calling AppDomain.

That sounds like the problem to me. What's probably happening is the domain is getting unloaded while its event handler is still running, and that's confusing the CLR at a level below your exception handling.

(What do you mean by 'crash', by the way?)

If you want plugins to be able to unload themselves, I think you will have to set a timer in that event handler so that the plugin domain is no longer doing stuff when you try to unload it. (And obviously, once the plugin raises that event, it should also kill any threads it spawned and not do any more processing, since it's issuing a suicide note by raising it.)

Benny_Lava13-Apr-11 9:38

13-Apr-11 9:38

Hi,

That sounds like the problem to me. What's probably happening is the domain is getting unloaded while its event handler is still running, and that's confusing the CLR at a level below your exception handling.

Yes, that crossed my mind the minute the bug appeared, but the event handler adds the method to a method execution queue I designed and that queue is run in a separate thread, so the event handler 100% exits.

By crash I mean when i'm in debugging mode after i press step over over the AppDomain.Unload the debugging session ends and the application literally crashes... Smile | :)

The plugins do not unload themselves, a dedicated method execution queue runned by a thread that is created in the main AppDomain terminates them by processing the method I posted in the original post.

Thank you for your quick reply.

BobJanova13-Apr-11 10:57

BobJanova

13-Apr-11 10:57

I'm not sure if you can unload a plugin from a different thread to the one that spawned it, come to think of it.

Running a queue in a separate thread is actually a really good way of having the unload happen before it should, unless you're applying a delay or doing some cross-domain interlocking.

I also agree with the other poster who said that you could try not unhooking the UnhandledException event handler. It should go out of scope and disappear anyway when the plugin reference is lost.

Benny_Lava13-Apr-11 22:06

13-Apr-11 22:06

Hi,

After a session of debugging using all advices I collected, here are my findings (So everybody can learn from my mistakes... Smile | :)

)

-A plugin can be unloaded from a different thread (other thread then the one that spawned it
-The problem was that I also handled UnhandledException event of the AppDomain, and a series of unfortunate events happened:

*I have 2 mechanisms for protecting my core system from plugins:
1. A watchdog timer mechanism that terminates a plugin if the plugin hasn't responded (raised an watch dog timer event) for a certain period of time
2.A UnhandledException event handler for when an unhandled error occurs in the plugin, and in that event i call UnloadPlugin function and remove the plugin from the core system

So a plugin spawned an unhandled exception the same time the watchdog timer called UnloadPlugin function... And in the UnhandledException handler it tried to use data and unload an already unloaded AppDomain

So the solution is to develop some kind of synchronization mechanism so if one request for termination comes that no other request are processed.

So the bottom line is "Threads are evil" Wink | ;)

Thanks for your help.

refreshing second combo by first not working

jschell13-Apr-11 8:46

jschell

13-Apr-11 8:46

unix_master01 wrote:
// DOES NOT COME TO THIS PART

AppDomains, all of them even the main one, have an UnhandledException.

You should always set that because unhandled exceptions terminate the domain or even the application. And that is your last chance to at least try to report what the exception was.

uglyeyes13-Apr-11 1:11

uglyeyes

13-Apr-11 1:11

Hi, when I select region combo, I can populate country combo but when I re-select region combo again, country combo append the listitem on top of the previous value. not sure why its happening. below is my code

protected void Page_Load(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
if (!(IsPostBack))
fillcombos();

ddRegion.SelectedIndexChanged +=new EventHandler(ddRegion_SelectedIndexChanged);

}

protected void ddRegion_SelectedIndexChanged(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
DataSet ds = new DataSet();
if (ddRegion.SelectedIndex >-1)
{
ds = myBLL.GetRegionOverviewAndCountryByRegionId(Convert.ToInt32(ddRegion.SelectedValue));
DataRow dr = ds.Tables[0].Rows[0]; // get the first row returned
if (dr.ItemArray.Count() > 0)
{
txtRegionOverview.Text = dr["RegionOverview"].ToString();
ddRegion.SelectedValue = dr["RegionId"].ToString();
}
if (ds.Tables[1].Rows.Count > 0)
{
ddCountry.DataSource = ds.Tables[1].DefaultView;
ddCountry.DataTextField = "CountryName";
ddCountry.DataValueField = "CountryCode";
}
else
{
ddCountry.DataSource = null;
}
ddCountry.DataBind();
}
}
public void fillcombos()
{
List<Region> regionList = new List<Region>();
regionList = myBLL.GetRegionList();
ddRegion.DataSource = regionList;
ddRegion.DataTextField = "RegionName";
ddRegion.DataValueField = "RegionId";
ddRegion.DataBind();
}

---
<asp:DropDownList ID="ddRegion" runat="server" AutoPostBack="true"></asp:DropDownList>
asp:DropDownList ID="ddCountry" AutoPostBack="true" runat="server" ></asp:DropDownList>

in addition, I wanna it to work when i add "select a region", "select a country" at the top with

ddregion.items.insert(0,"select.."

please help

Re: refreshing second combo by first not working

#realJSOP13-Apr-11 2:16

#realJSOP

13-Apr-11 2:16

A couple of things:

0) Change your Page_Load method to do this:

if (!IsPostBack)
{
    fillcombos();
    ddRegion.SelectedIndexChanged +=new EventHandler(ddRegion_SelectedIndexChanged);
}

1) Either clear the country combo box or check IsPostBack again before adding stuff to it.

2) Your question should have been put into the ASP.Net forum.

3) Learn how to use the <PRE> tag here for code snippets.

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Re: refreshing second combo by first not working [modified]

uglyeyes13-Apr-11 2:51

uglyeyes

13-Apr-11 2:51

Ok I had to clear the combo in pageload but how do I add "Please select" in this situation?

-- Modified Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:02 AM

Re: refreshing second combo by first not working

gavindon13-Apr-11 3:30

gavindon

13-Apr-11 3:30

if this is in fact an asp.net application that you are just using c# for the code behind..

in the properties window look for these things

Items (collection) set the first item in that collection to "Please Select" or whatever you wish

AppendDataBoundItems  set to true

ViewStateMode  = false

Go to the first box and set to AutoPostBack = true.

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13-Apr-11 0:59

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Richard MacCutchan13-Apr-11 2:50

Richard MacCutchan

13-Apr-11 2:50

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Dave Kreskowiak13-Apr-11 6:07

Dave Kreskowiak

13-Apr-11 6:07

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Eddy Vluggen13-Apr-11 10:43

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13-Apr-11 10:43

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