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lvq68430-Mar-11 2:19

30-Mar-11 2:19

Hi.

I´ve created several web pages, that makes use of HTML injection. That means a script on a web page that calls a web service, gets html code returned, and the script then injects the html code in a div somewhere.
This solution avoids postbacks, returns data faster back to the end-user and creates a more smooth web experience.

But what are the downsides of html injection? The only thing I can think of, is that code maintainance gets harder as the project gets larger..

Thanks for your thoughts.

Kind regards,
Lars

Re: Disadvantages of HTML injection?

Manfred Rudolf Bihy30-Mar-11 3:14

Manfred Rudolf Bihy

30-Mar-11 3:14

lvq684 wrote:
script on a web page that calls a web service, gets html code returned

Actually that is the only part I don't agree with. The webservice should indeed not return HTML but rather raw (JSON) data. Encapsulate the javascript that generates the HTML (from your data) into sparate classes, that way you keep your webservices uncontaminated from GUI/UI stuff.
The code for the HTML generation can be reused and maintained separately.

My two cents.

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Re: Disadvantages of HTML injection?

lvq68430-Mar-11 3:23

lvq684

30-Mar-11 3:23

Good point there, thanks!

Re: Disadvantages of HTML injection?

Manfred Rudolf Bihy30-Mar-11 3:31

Manfred Rudolf Bihy

30-Mar-11 3:31

Anytime!

Re: Disadvantages of HTML injection?

Prasanta_Prince19-Apr-11 23:59

Prasanta_Prince

19-Apr-11 23:59

Good answer..

every IP connect to my WebService - why ?

goldsoft29-Mar-11 20:32

goldsoft

29-Mar-11 20:32

hi
i have WebService in Computer1 his IP is 10.20.30.40 (IIS-7 on Windows-7 64bit)

i try to connect from Computer2 like this:

http://10.20.30.40/WS_Test/Service1.asmx ->> and i connect

i try this:

http://11.22.33.44/WS_Test/Service1.asmx ->> and i connect too !!!

the WebService stay in C:\Inetpub\wwwroot and i made him installation.

why if i try to connect with wrong IP i get connected ?

thanks in advance

Re: every IP connect to my WebService - why ?

Manfred Rudolf Bihy30-Mar-11 3:18

Manfred Rudolf Bihy

30-Mar-11 3:18

Maybe your host does have multiple IP adresses. A website can be configured to listen to multiple IP adresses for incoming requests.
What happens when you ping or traceroute that second IP adress?

Cheers!

logostomke28-Mar-11 23:59

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28-Mar-11 23:59

I think it really depends on the brand which is you wish to developed in order to established it's foundation to the next level and to create an opportunity to improves it's whole growth.

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Re: reply

Dalek Dave29-Mar-11 7:04

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29-Mar-11 7:04

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about element styling

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)27-Mar-11 8:24

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)

27-Mar-11 8:24

guys, what do you think about this;

CSS

html, body, div, span, applet, object, iframe,h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, p, blockquote, pre,a, abbr, acronym, address, big, cite, code,
del, dfn, em, img, ins, kbd, q, s, samp,small, strike, strong, sub, sup, tt, var,b, u, i, center,dl, dt, dd, ol, ul, li,
fieldset, form, label, legend,table, caption, tbody, tfoot, thead, tr, th, td,article, aside, canvas, details, embed, 
figure, figcaption, footer, header, hgroup, menu, nav, output, ruby, section, summary,time, mark, audio, video
{margin: 0;	padding: 0;	border: 0;	font-size: 100%;	font: inherit;	vertical-align: baseline;	direction:rtl;}

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Re: about element styling

Richard MacCutchan27-Mar-11 9:18

Richard MacCutchan

27-Mar-11 9:18

Lots of words! Come on try and give people a clue.

d@nish[^] has the answer.

Re: about element styling

Keith Barrow27-Mar-11 10:15

Keith Barrow

27-Mar-11 10:15

*{

	margin: 0;
	padding: 0;
	border: 0;
	font-size: 100%;
	font: inherit;
	vertical-align: baseline;
	direction:rtl;
}

????????

depends what you are trying to do of course: I'd name the font. The font-size is meaninless too, it fundamentally says keep the font at the current size. I also think the vertical-align is unecessary.

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Re: about element styling

Dalek Dave28-Mar-11 6:05

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28-Mar-11 6:05

What do I think?

I think it is clumsy and inelegant.
Define it in the CSS page as a named style, adopt a neater, clearer presentation, and try not to clutter it.

Someone may have to follow you later, and one look at this will not help them, and will make them think you are a terrible developer.

Inelegant code is a bugger to maintain, so keep it simple.

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Re: about element styling

Pete O'Hanlon28-Mar-11 6:44

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28-Mar-11 6:44

As others have said, it's too much. What you have, in effect, attempted to do is to add a universal selector here; and there's already inbuilt functionality for this in the * tag.

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Re: about element styling

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)29-Mar-11 2:39

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29-Mar-11 2:39

Thank you, sir;

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Re: about element styling

musefan29-Mar-11 2:29

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29-Mar-11 2:29

What do I think??? I think I just laughed myself into a coma! Laugh | :laugh:

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Re: about element styling

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)29-Mar-11 2:36

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)

29-Mar-11 2:36

exactly !!

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About Form Design

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)27-Mar-11 0:34

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)

27-Mar-11 0:34

guys, i used to use tables and divs to design forms, but i have received a design that use a list to arrange controls on the form

my question is; what is better for an html form a Table or a List?

Thank you;

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Re: About Form Design

JP_Rocks27-Mar-11 0:54

JP_Rocks

27-Mar-11 0:54

List is definitely better and faster than table.

Go by W3c thumb rule,

5.3: "Do not use tables for layout unless the table makes sense when linearized. Otherwise, if the table does not make sense, provide an alternative equivalent (which may be a linearized version). [Priority 2]".
5.4: "If a table is used for layout, do not use any structural markup for the purpose of visual formatting. [Priority 2]".

Re: About Form Design

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)27-Mar-11 2:18

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)

27-Mar-11 2:18

Thank you;

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Re: About Form Design

Keith Barrow27-Mar-11 0:58

Keith Barrow

27-Mar-11 0:58

There are two schools of thought on this:

School 1 is that tables are OK for styling, and it is possible to style this was. I don't do this.

School 2 [the one I belong to] is that you should never use tables for formatting as it loses the flexibility for formatting. Additionally (possibly more importantly) the html tags have a symantic meaning, tables are for tabular data. This reaps other benefits too: a well designed page can be ordered so a screen reader (for the partially sighted/blind) reads in the logical order which isn't always the same as the visual order. I almost (read 99.99%) never put any styling inline in the HTML, I do it all through CSS. See CSS Zen Garden[^] for examples. For each design the only thing that is different is the stylesheet.

IMO you should use the tags for their intended symantic purpose, others do have a different point of view.

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Re: About Form Design

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)27-Mar-11 2:16

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)

27-Mar-11 2:16

Thank you for this informations.

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Re: About Form Design

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)28-Mar-11 0:24

Ali Al Omairi(Abu AlHassan)

28-Mar-11 0:24

Ma'am;

I have built a tree witch each node is rendered to a table, just like the code below:

html"

<table>
<tr>
<!-- tds to hold lines and +/- img -->
...
<td>
Node Value
</td>
</tr>
</table>

Should I change it to something else?

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