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73Zeppelin22-Apr-08 1:03
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soap brain22-Apr-08 17:23
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73Zeppelin wrote:
Well, that depends: a particle moving in a straight line being acted upon by what forces?


No acceleration = no forces?


73Zeppelin wrote:
No! A particle at rest is! A particle moving in a straight line with no acceleration still has kinetic energy!


Moving in a straight line relative to what? At rest relative to what?
I didn't think that there was a difference...
[Edit #1] Wait...I'm confused about kinetic energy. So...accelerating something gives it kinetic energy? What is kinetic energy? Is it an increase in mass because of an increase of energy? (E=mc2)? Or am I just completely missing the point?
Maybe I'm just making this unnecessarily complicated...
[Edit #3] I don't think I really get the concept of 'at rest'.
Just a thought - would the act of dropping a nuclear bomb (and having it accelerate towards the ground) increase the energy of the explosion a tiny bit? Rather than having it sit motionless? Ignoring, of course, the ground absorbing heaps of the energy of the explosion.

73Zeppelin wrote:

A hydrogen atom (in the ground state) can be described by a quantum mechanical Hamiltonian that gives the equations for the description of the hydrogen atom (ground state). In fact, the Hamiltonian in quantum mechanics leads to the Schrödinger equation - one of the fundamental equations of quantum theory. And since we are talking about the ground state of an atom, we are really considering its lowest energy configuration.


Ground state.
Lowest energy configuration.
What does that entail? Absolute zero? Confused | :confused:

[Edit #2] Question: if you accelerate an atom to a high enough speed can it cause an electron to jump to a higher orbital?
Ground state incorporates both being at rest and having minimum level energy electrons, doesn't it? Confused | :confused:

[Edit #4] No, AHHH!!! I don't get it. Frown | :( My thoughts are racing too fast. I'm gonna go, I dunno, eat a cookie or something... Sigh | :sigh:

[Edit #5] Kinetic energy is a relative measure, isn't it? Ek = 1/2*m*v2, and velocity is relative, so kinetic energy is too?


Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.


modified on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:19 AM

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