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Bulky Fellow wrote: I am looking for a fast setup for non-linear video editing
What software you want to use ? does it support/optimized for C2Q or Xeon (or whatever is in fashion today and tomorrow) ?
If you are doing professional work, I would suggest going the the vendor's site and look at the hardware they support.
For example, for Avid, they support and qualify a dual quad-core Apple Mac Pro system, and for on the PC side, they qualify for a pair or dual-core Xeon.
For the rest, raided drives, graphic card optimized for 2D graphics with support for 2 monitors; IMO ram is important, but not that much, except for the final rendering, what you want to look for is overall transfer speed between all the different parts.
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You are missing one of the important points: Get a decent SCSI or SATA Raid controller. You don't want your CPU to be involved in the copying as much as Onboard-RAID usually does.
Cheers,
Sebastian
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Unless you're building a multiprocessor system there's little or no benefit from a Xeon chip. The C2quad would blow the xeon away by about 40% in a single threaded app, in an app that supported 4 worker threads efficiently it'd be 2.8 times faster.
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Intel just announced the Q9950 or something like that. It's a 3ghz quad core, and runs $1000.
The fastest RAM you can get depends on the motherboard you buy. If you want to use more than 3GB of RAM under Windows, you need to use a 64-bit OS. At that point, software and driver compatibility may become an issue.
The fastest hard drives are solid-state and run about $25,000 each (and if not that much, then some equally unreasonable amount despite being significantly cheaper). Barring your ability to afford such a drive, I would recommend a Raptor drive - supposedly the fastest available. I've never seem them larger than 75gb though (keep in mind I've been fairly out of touch hardware wise for the last 6-8 months)...
If you're doing video editing, you don't need a FireGL (that's for 3D stuff). You can probably find something infinitely cheaper, and then buy a decent video processing card to go along with it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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There's a 150gig raptor. If the OP really wants the fastest hard drive possible he shouldn't be looking at raptors though, they're only 10k RPM. There're 15K SCSI drives that'll smoke them.
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If you want a machine for video editing you will need to do a lot of research. I myself have an AVID Express Pro box with the Mojo real-time renderer.
I heard Sony's Vegas and Adobe's Premiere Pro and After Effects names thrown around earlier in the thread. Do you know exactaly which software you will use? Once you find that out you need to do some research on the software, especially if you want real-time editing. If real-time is what you want, AVID is the way to go.
Should you decide to go with AVID; here are some of the things I found out about their software that my computer had to support (keep in mind that I built this machine for AVID Express Pro v5.2):
1.) To use the Mojo box, the firewire controller must be based on the Texas Insturments chip; AND, it must be the only device on that bus seqment to the chipset.
2.) The RAM must be DDR Dual-Channel 333Mhz ECC modules.
3.) If an IDE or EIDE HDD controller is used, the drives cannot be daisy chained. Each must have a seperate controller. (I went with 2 250GB Seagate Barracuda SATA drives @ 7200RPMs. 3Gbs is more than enough to do full HD 1080p real-time editing; just make sure that you are reading from a seperate drive than you are writing to).
4.) Windows XP Pro is the reccomended OS. AVID will not work with Windows XP Pro x64 Edition. I used XP Pro (32bit).
As far as video cards go, I have an Nvidia Quadro FX 1400 and it works great. You may want another one to output to a TV of some kind if your not going to go with AVID. If you do go with AVID and a Mojo, the Mojo will supply all the I/O you will need.
Is this for Professional use or home/pro-sumer use?
Now about the processor. I have 2 3.4Ghz 64bit Intel Xenon processors now. Let me tell you something, this system screams! I recently was the Animation Supervisor for Sisqo's music video "Who's Ur Daddy?", the video bombed (go figure) but that is beside the point. We filmed it on a Sony CineAlta and had the camera dump the footage live through a BlackMagic HD capture card and finally to an Apple G5 with a wicked sick SCSI RAID array (3TB, all drives functioning at 15kRPMs). The final capture was around 100GB. Most of the color correction (AVID), animation (Maya), and a few video effects (After Effects) were done on my system, and the machine never skipped a beat. Real-time, renderless editing.
In my opinion, I would rather have 2 single core processors than one dual core processor. Just look at the pin count, 2 seperate processors can physicaly handle more data, hands down. And a dual processor setup is cheaper. You can get the processors I have now for a ball park figure of $250/ea.
Now, 64bit or 32bit processors? 32bit processors are really cheap, I would not reccomend them. 64bit on the other hand can be cheap and can offer more than you think. a 64bit processor running on a 64bit OS is fast. But AVID does not support a 64bit OS. Now if you have 2 64bit processors (like my setup) and a 32bit OS, you can actually operate almost just as fast as if you were running a 64bit OS. The 64bit processor with HyperThreading turned on (assuming Intel) will split the single 64 bit pipeline into 2 32bit portions. Running 2 of these processors under a 32bit OS will yield the performance of 4 32bit processors.
Anyway, I hope this helps...
-David
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Hi! I need you help solving a strange problem.
On my cisnet AOL PC with XP SP2,
when I plug in my RiDATA 128MB usb 1.1 thumb drive
my pc restarts. This is a random occurence as far as the restart, but only happens to the RiDATA.
Why is this, and how do I fix it?
Note: I will not do firmware upgrades as i have a bad
past with them (Killed an awsome pentium II MX PC -
top of the line at the time and ran very fast even
with XP)
-- modified at 21:12 Saturday 17th November, 2007
"Shorter of breath,
and one day closer to death." ~Pink Floyd
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I am shopping for a notebook and came across a reasonably priced 64 bit Averatec with ATI Radeon™ Xpress 200M installed.
ATI Radeon™ Xpress 200M[^]
I don't know much about video in general (even less on a notebook) and would like to hear your opinions about ATI Radeon™ Xpress 200M.
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I have 2x512 MB of memory at a latency of 5-5-5-12. The question is can I add 2x1024 of the same latency and speed (800 MHZ) without damaging the system?
I am fighting against the Universe...
Reference-Rick Cook
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Assuming your board has 4 slots, Yes.
The only thing you want to make sure is that you put them in identically on both channels. Not installing them symetrically won't do any physical harm, but will force you out of dual channel mode and inflict a major performance hit.
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I have 4 slots and the 4 sticks of memory are paired (TWIN...)Is this a correct placement: 1GB-512MB-1GB-512MB? I have read on another forum that I should make some changes in BIOS for the best performance. Is this true?
I am fighting against the Universe...
Reference-Rick Cook
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You need to read your mobos documentation. The various brands don't have a consistent layout or color coding scheme. You want a 1G and a 512MB on each channel, and both 1Gs in the same place in it eg both in the first or both in the second slot for the channel.
The BIOS probably be set to use official spec timings, which are potentially looser than your ram is rated at. YOu can change your board to match, but the gains from timing changes are very small and naming and layout are again cryptic and inconsistent between brands so you'll need to read your docs.
If you're messing with settings the one that you probably can't leave at dimm specs is that with 2 dimms per channel you almost always need to use 2T instead of 1T, the bios should've done this for you though.
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The motherboards slots are colored in 2 colors (blue-blue-black-black), so probably the example that you suggested (1GB-1GB-512MB-512MB) is the correct one.
I am fighting against the Universe...
Reference-Rick Cook
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read your manual, it's the only way you can be sure. I've had boards where slot1 of channel A and slot1 of channel B had one color, and the slot2's had a second. I've had boards where both slots of channel A had one color, and both slots of channel 2 the second. I've had boards where the ordering was CA-S1 CB-S1 CA-S2 CB-S2, and boards that were CA-S1 CA-S2 CB-S1 CB-S2. The color coding is useless across brands.
That said, assuming your machine was originally put together correctly the 512's are in the first slot of each channel and you can just stick the 1G's into the two open slots.
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If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.
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I do the same thing in PPC .
but now I want to boot my pc into Linux because of interesting.
Is any one can interact with me.
lsmhg
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What is BSP ?
What is PPC ? ( is it a PowerPC processor ? or something else? )
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yes, it's Powerpc CPU
gggggggg
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They worked fine during the first year, but shortly after the 1-year warranty expired, they stopped working. I've updated Windows XP and the Conexant audio driver but still no sound. How can I determine if it is a hardware or a software problem?
Thanks.
- DC
"Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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Well you could try plugginig in a pair of headphones, if it then starts working then its probably a hardware problem. To find out if its windows then you could start up a linux live on CD like ubuntu or knoppix etc, play some sound in that, if that works then you know windows is your problem...
//Johannes
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Buy a new laptop. If that one works, your old one is defective.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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But what if the new laptop has no internal speakers?
"Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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Then you have no problems!
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Then you have no problem. They can't not work because they're not there.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I am working on a Silicon Labroratories F340, and in my KEIL uVision3 I
have found it in the "device database". I can make a project with this
chip set. But when I compile the project, it showed error message "path
for toolset undefined".
I checked the tools.ini, it only contains my email address.
Thanks.
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Problem solved. Set up in the enviornment.
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