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I still write everyting using VB6 for desktop applications and classic ASP & SQL2000 for the intranet. Looked at later versions of VB and ASP.Net, but saw no real gains for the investment in time it would take to convert. Am I alone?

Not alone, but I (and probably many others) would urge you to rethink. If you've got a massive app that is simply impractical to port then stay where you are, but the productivity and performance gains as well as ease of development and maintanence may very well make up any lost dev time.

Plus, everything new is ASP.NET. Less and less work is being done in ASP 3.0 so articles, components, cool stuff like Atlas etc won't be available to you.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

Yeah its a bit big to convert the whole intranet system over to .NET, there are over 900 individual ASP pages alone, about 3 years worth of programming, and 40 users online at one time.

The other problem is half the user PC's are close to 10 years old, running IE6 is a bit enough drain on resources, let alone including the .net framework. Luckily its a controlled environment, so I can stick to IE and use a lot of client side VB script for form validation, etc

But I will look into this .net stuff, need a new challenge.

Glenn

If it's a web app, you don't need the .NET Framework on the client's PC. The webserver uses the .NET Framework to render your page and deliver it to the client's web browser. Think of the .NET Framework as the replacement for the horrible VBScript engine. Smile | :)

Also, ASP and ASP.NET apps will co-exist peacefully on the same webserver. This would allow you to convert/replace existing apps as you have time, plus do all new development using ASP.NET.

I really so urge you to learn ASP.NET and really convert your skills to C#. VB.NET is a radically new language compared to VBScript. You are going to have to relearn it anyway. May as well start using the language that the brain-trust in Redmond prefers. Smile | :)

I have also found that there are more online examples written in C# than in VB.NET as well.

Anyway, that is my 2 cents. Good luck!

-- Spiff

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Spiffdog Design

It's ok.. he's no ordinary dog...

For the last one I had to choose Sky Writing as a joke but I'd like to have answered "Community, blogs, forums, online magazines etc."

regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland

FeedHenry needs you

Shog9 wrote:
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

Couldn't help myself either! Smile | :)

What you mean I won't see a plane flying over my building later today?

i wanted to say "i saw Bob using it", or the more helpful "it is recommended in the lounge, or by someone who knows what they are talking about"

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness

Seconded. Those are by far and away the biggest way I fidn out about things. So much so it dwarfs the others.

- Phil

I agree. I'll usually take a look at a new product based on word-of-mouth or blog/online community recommendations.

I picked Sky Writing because, out of that list, that would probably be the most effective way of getting my attention. Banner Advertising and Newsletter and Magazine ads get ignored by habit. Direct Email and Snail Mail hit the recycle bin by reflex and if I see a blatent "product placement in a movie", I am usually more annoyed than anything.

-- Spiff

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Spiffdog Design

It's ok.. he's no ordinary dog...

What should be my answer for question 11 ?

All the label says is that this stuff contains chemicals "... known to the State of California to cause cancer in rats and low-income test subjects."
Roger Wright
http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?select=965687&exp=5&fr=1#xx965687xx

I haven't been around here in ages, but it's good to see somethings never change... the CListCtrl joke is still going strong... Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.

say what ?

Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert

Still going, yes. Good? Dead | X|

--Mike--
Visual C++ MVP Cool | :cool:

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Option	Votes	%
younger than 18	17	2.13
18 - 24	142	17.77
25 - 29	205	25.66
30 - 34	157	19.65
35 - 39	121	15.14
40 - 44	81	10.14
45 - 54	95	11.89
55 or older	35	4.38
Total	799	100%

Option	Votes	%
High school or before	107	13.39
Diploma or other post-secondary education	125	15.64
University/College degree	483	60.45
Post Graduate / Doctorate	137	17.15
Total	799	100%

Option	Votes	%
Desktop applications	619	77.47
Web Development	487	60.95
Client / Server applications	441	55.19
Mobile / Embedded Development	141	17.65
Database development	471	58.95
System applications	178	22.28
Security systems	56	7.01
Manufacturing / Engineering systems	115	14.39
None	8	1.00
Other	54	6.76
Responses	799
Respondents were allowed to choose more than one answer; totals may not add up to 100%

Option	Votes	%
over $200,000	22	2.75
$100,000 to $200,000	136	17.02
$75,000 to $99,999	127	15.89
$50,000 to $74,999	147	18.40
$25,000 to $49,999	125	15.64
less than $24,999	98	12.27
decline to answer	192	24.03
Total	799	100%

Option	Votes	%
C / C++ (unmanaged)	381	47.68
C++/CLI (managed C++)	102	12.77
C#	532	66.58
VB.NET	219	27.41
ASP.NET	384	48.06
AJAX / Atlas	156	19.52
Visual Studio .NET 2002/2003	473	59.20
Visual Studio 2005	510	63.83
Windows	649	81.23
Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP or related	194	24.28
Vista technologies (XAML, WPF etc)	36	4.51
Responses	799
Respondents were allowed to choose more than one answer; totals may not add up to 100%

Option	Votes	%
CEO / President / Owner	89	11.14
Senior Management (CTO, CIO, Director of Technology)	36	4.51
Project Manager	148	18.52
Architect	203	25.41
Senior Developer	380	47.56
Developer	358	44.81
SysAdmin	54	6.76
DBA	92	11.51
QA / Testing / Documentation	91	11.39
Other	87	10.89
Responses	799
Respondents were allowed to choose more than one answer; totals may not add up to 100%

Option	Votes	%
Just me	82	10.26
2 - 5	105	13.14
6 - 10	60	7.51
11 - 50	153	19.15
51 - 100	81	10.14
101 - 500	114	14.27
501 - 1000	49	6.13
1001 - 5000	83	10.39
5000+	76	9.51
Not applicable	42	5.26
Total	799	100%

Option	Votes	%
over $100,000 per annum	26	3.25
$50,000 - $100,000 per annum	25	3.13
$10,000 - $49,999 per annum	39	4.88
$5,000 - $9,999 per annum	50	6.26
$1,000 - $4,999 per annum	74	9.26
less than $1,000 per annum	50	6.26
Zero. They don't trust me with the plastic	206	25.78
Not applicable	375	46.93
Total	799	100%

Option	Votes	%
Hardware	408	51.06
Operating systems	348	43.55
Database systems	316	39.55
Office software	393	49.19
No - they never listen to me	87	10.89
Not applicable	209	26.16
Responses	799
Respondents were allowed to choose more than one answer; totals may not add up to 100%

Option	Votes	%
Desktop, notebook, TabletPC	405	50.69
Computer upgrades	438	54.82
Software	484	60.58
PDAs, Blackberry, Palm etc	105	13.14
MP3 Players	150	18.77
Home Theatre / TV / DVD	175	21.90
PC Peripherals (monitors, printers etc.)	322	40.30
Network hardware (routers, network cards, etc.)	254	31.79
Game consoles	86	10.76
Camera gear	150	18.77
Responses	799
Respondents were allowed to choose more than one answer; totals may not add up to 100%

Option	Votes	%
Once a week or more	134	16.77
Once a month or more	265	33.17
A few times a year	279	34.92
Rarely	110	13.77
Never	16	2.00
Total	799	100%

Option	Votes	%
Banner advertising	138	17.27
Newsletter ad	170	21.28
Direct email	236	29.54
Magazine ad	104	13.02
Sky writing	95	11.89
Product placement in movies	13	1.63
Snail mail	43	5.38
Total	799	100%

Option	Votes	%
Operating Systems	312	39.05
Database servers	164	20.53
MSDN or Visual Studio	406	50.81
Third party development tools (programming, compilers, editors, etc.)	390	48.81
Business productivity (word processing, editors, accounting, CRM, etc.)	149	18.65
Scientific / mathematical / Financial	99	12.39
Graphical or Multimedia	133	16.65
Games	211	26.41
Freeware or shareware all the way, baby	323	40.43
Responses	799
Respondents were allowed to choose more than one answer; totals may not add up to 100%

The Code Project Community Survey 2006 [Edit]