Eytukan - Professional Profile

cykophysh39 wrote:

How would anyone that names himself a mentally unstable aquatic vertebrate ever get offended

VuNic wrote:

Welcome dude!

VuNic wrote:

Your name looks a *hero-character* in Age of Empires game

VuNic wrote:

So your parents are in South Africa right?

Paul van der Walt wrote:

Cool, I didn't realise that (don't really know AoE well) - because of name, or colour?

Paul van der Walt wrote:

No, actually I didn't give the full picture in my first post... A while ago my parents moved from here (Netherlands) to SA and my brother and sister (at that time about 23) stayed in NL. I went with my parents to SA and spent the 7 years there, after which they (and I) came back to NL because of the bit of family here etc. So at the moment I am here, and my mom is too (my dad is temporarily contracting overseas), so we're never in one place for all that long at a time

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Hi!

I have 3 questions about Visual C.

1-) Will Microsoft support Visual C(native Win32 API)   applications in the future? Is 
there any declarations from Microsoft Developer Team?

2-) If i'm not wrong, the 90% percent of programs for windows is written in native code.
(such as Winamp). Do u think, that all firms in 2-3 years will migrate to .NET?

3-) I'm pretty good in Visual C.(not MFC) I can hook the system, change the registry 
entries, write MDI programs etc. So do I need to learn .NET?

<br />
1 - do you mean C, or C++ ? They have supported them for three iterations of .NET now, <br />
I suspect they will continue to do so.<br />
<br />
2 - I think more and more people who are starting an app will use C#.  I certainly do <br />
for most new apps, although my background is C++.  However, if I had to write something <br />
processor intensive, I'd still use C++.<br />
<br />
3 - That depends.  Are you a hobbyist ? Are you looking for work ? The C API to the <br />
exclusion of MFC I would have said would have been career suicide 5 years ago, let <br />
alone now.  If this is your career, you should have learned .NET 5 years ago, and you <br />
should still learn it now.  I still take C++ work, but my options would be pretty <br />
limited if I'd only stuck to what I knew.  But, you'll always be able to write apps in <br />
C or C++, so if you're doing it for fun, do whatever you're comfortable with.<br />

1-  i ment C.

3- i'm not a hobbyist. What idon't understand is , why i should use .NET, if i can do 
all the things that i can get from .NET with native Win32API. Managed code is 3x slower 
than native code, is compeletly a new library(all experienced windows programmers must 
give up the old habbits), needs more resources(more RAM, more CPU speed). And if we 
talk about the platform independency, Java exists till 10 years.

Besides why do u think that it is a career suicide?

PS: I read both the Windows Programming books of C.Petzold (for C and C#). He means 
that we still have the option between Win32, MFC and Windows Forms. So my main question 
was actually how long Microsoft will support Win32API(and indirectly MFC). We know that 
we can use it for Vista. But what about by the next Windows after Vista? Will the Win32 
programs still work in the future?

<br />
If you are using C, and not C++, then you're already chasing a niche market.<br />
<br />
You can't easily to all the things you get from .NET with the C API.  How do you do <br />
regex in C ? I guess there would be libraries about.  C is a PITA, IMO, anyhow.  I've <br />
done some fair size C projects, and I found it very restricting, especially the lack of <br />
OO.<br />
<br />
Managed code is 3x slower ? I doubt it.  It gets compiled into native code the first <br />
time it is executed.  I do image processing code a lot, and I found little difference <br />
in speed between C++ and C#.  <br />
<br />
Platform independence is a farce.  I'd never push that barrow.<br />
<br />
I think it's career suicide to always do what you've always done, and ignore the many <br />
new options that open to you over the years.  I started in C++, went back to C, used <br />
Python almost exclusively for a year or so ( actually this was after writing a <br />
windowing framework on Windows in C to link to Python ), and moved to C# mostly for <br />
ASP.NET.  I can still code in C, if a job comes up.  I do C++ and C# work currently, <br />
and I'm first with my hand up to learn anything new.<br />
<br />
Microsoft will always support the Win32 API, everything else is built on that.  Just <br />
like they will support COM forever, for the same reasons.  Win32 will always work, it's <br />
just no way to live.<br />
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Christian Graus - MVP, C++ <small>On a technical Forum

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Never try to explain someone like "I tried to vote you 5 but I accidentally clicked on "spam"/"abuse". cuz it's got a confirmation dialog.;P You cannot do it accidentally.

VivekuniQ wrote:

my wishes to all my friends here and the owner of this appartment!!!

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