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Re: .NET 2005: 32-bit vs 64-bit code

John Fisher6-Sep-05 8:11

6-Sep-05 8:11

You realize that I was referring to the framework itself, and not your code?

John

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Re: .NET 2005: 32-bit vs 64-bit code

Dave Kreskowiak6-Sep-05 7:56

Dave Kreskowiak

6-Sep-05 7:56

Just to make things a little more confusing. In the Release version or youre code, you're only doing one math problem at runtime. The optimizer will evaluate the math of 2 constant values into a resultant constant and substitute that constant for the code used to get it.

You're actually just mov'ing two float64 constants to the two locations a and b. Then the division takes place and is assigned to c as a float64 result.

You're code is actually this:

for(int x = 0; x < 100000000; x++)
{
    double a = 1524157.8750190521
    double b = 152415787.50190521
    double c = a / b;
}

But, that's not the problem. The problem is that your still running under a 32-bit OS. You can't use any of the 64-bit instruction set, including math instructions, until you replace your OS with Win64 enabled Windows. Until then, your doing 64-bit math using only the 32-bit instruction set, which, oddly enough, is slower on the 64-bit chips.

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Re: .NET 2005: 32-bit vs 64-bit code

gabser6-Sep-05 8:08

gabser

6-Sep-05 8:08

OS is Windows Server 2003
Enterprise x64 Edition
Service Pack1

Re: .NET 2005: 32-bit vs 64-bit code

Dave Kreskowiak6-Sep-05 10:11

Dave Kreskowiak

6-Sep-05 10:11

Then I have no idea what's causing it.

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Re: .NET 2005: 32-bit vs 64-bit code

Dave Kreskowiak6-Sep-05 10:12

Dave Kreskowiak

6-Sep-05 10:12

Well, other than the .NET Framework 2.0 is still a beta and not optimised for performance benchmarks yet.

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Re: .NET 2005: 32-bit vs 64-bit code

Judah Gabriel Himango6-Sep-05 11:35

Judah Gabriel Himango

6-Sep-05 11:35

My best guess is that .NET 2005 is beta still. Try this again in November when it's RTM.

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Program Structure

Kash6-Sep-05 6:21

Kash

6-Sep-05 6:21

I am calling a dll from C#.
The dll is called from a single function call in C# (dllimport ...)
The dll produces data, which I want to access in real-time as and when it is generated in C#. However, the single function call will obviously only return the final answer.
How can I setup either the dll or the C# to give me data as I require? Do I need to make an additional function call in C# that gives me access to the data or will the dll have to setup to send data back periodically? If so, how can I do this?
Your help is appreciated.

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Re: Program Strucutr

Judah Gabriel Himango6-Sep-05 6:32

Judah Gabriel Himango

6-Sep-05 6:32

Let me ask if I'm understanding your problem correctly. Your C/C++ dll produces data in real-time, but only gives the final result back, yet you want your C# code to have access to the real-time data? If that's what you want, then you have a few options. One option is to split up the C/C++ function into several functions, each returing parts of the real-time data. Another option is to pass a delegate type to the C/C++ dll which will be called from inside the C/C++ dll as it receives real-time data. I'd recommend the latter option.

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Re: Program Structure

Kash6-Sep-05 6:45

Kash

6-Sep-05 6:45

Hi,
Yes that's what I'm trying to do. The dll is written in Fortran so splitting up the routines is definitely not something I want to do.

I was half-expecting the answer to be on multithreading whereby a call would be made to the main process and periodically a call would be made to the fortran routine that keeps the data with a flag so tell C# that new data has arrived.

Just for interest, would this be a good idea?

However, I will try as you suggest.

Re: Program Structure

leppie6-Sep-05 7:06

leppie

6-Sep-05 7:06

pass a reference to a struct into the dll (if u have access to that) function that u can inspect on the client side, then fire off the dll function in a seperate thread.

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.Net CF 2.0 & Pocket Internet Explorer

tomdz6-Sep-05 6:20

tomdz

6-Sep-05 6:20

Hi folks,

I'm unable to convert code that works in MFC for Pocket PC (2003 using VisualStudio 2005 beta 2) to C#. The basic idea is to use the COM object for Pocket Internet Explorer to gain access to the HTMLDocument object.
In MFC this is done in the view class with something like (error handling removed for brevity)

m_wndBrowser.CreateControl(CLSID_Browser,
lpszWindowName,
WS_VISIBLE | WS_CHILD,
rectClient, this,
AFX_IDW_PANE_FIRST);

LPUNKNOWN lpUnk = m_wndBrowser.GetControlUnknown();

lpUnk->QueryInterface(IID_IBrowser, (void**) &m_pBrowserApp);
lpUnk->QueryInterface(IID_IBrowser2, (void**) &m_pBrowser2App);
...

But how to that in C# ? I checked MSDN (which directed me to use the Type Library Importer, but on what ? there is tlb or dll for PIE) and google but without success.

regards,
Tom

faster access memory

Sasuko6-Sep-05 6:18

Sasuko

6-Sep-05 6:18

i need a long Image array of [300] images of 900x1100 pixel Hmmm | :|

i made it and it works...
but the access of it is slow in my application when i push a button i just use 5 images of this array and make just some modification, draw some line cut a part of the first, a part of the second and put all together.
It works slow becouse i use GDI+.
How can make it to works faster?
Can i use some faster memory area of my pc?

Re: faster access memory

Judah Gabriel Himango6-Sep-05 6:26

Judah Gabriel Himango

6-Sep-05 6:26

Loading 300 images, each 900x1100 in dimensions is gonna kill your memory usage. There's just no way to do this on a desktop PC, memory will shoot through the roof, dragging your system to a crawl.

So my first suggestion, don't load all 300 images into memory. Load the images you need, and call Dispose() on them when you're done. This should improve your performance (and memory usage) quite a bit.

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Re: faster access memory

Dan Neely6-Sep-05 7:06

Dan Neely

6-Sep-05 7:06

IF you're using 32bit color that's ~1.2gigs of data. Between application and OS level overhead, you'll probabably need at least 1.5gig of ram to keep the entire working set in memory at once. If your application needs to run on more modest machines you'll need to redesign your architecture to only load a fraction of the images at a given time. You could try storing the data in memory in a compressed format and only expanding the images as needed, you'll still have a fairly large ammount of overhead, but if you need the entire collection in working memory at once it would probably be better than thrashing the swapfile.

Re: faster access memory

Andrew Kirillov6-Sep-05 8:25

Andrew Kirillov

6-Sep-05 8:25

Hello

If you are trying to perform some image processing routines, then you should use LockBits and process your image using unsafe mode. It will be much faster, then using SetPixel/GetPixel.

But, as it was already said here, you need to avoid loading all 300 images. Even with unsafe mode it will be rather slow, because you will need much memory. And if you have no such much memory, then will lose performance on memory swapping.

With best regards,
Andrew

DirectPlay Problem with C#

Zeeshan Gulzar6-Sep-05 5:20

Zeeshan Gulzar

6-Sep-05 5:20

I am facing a problem with DirectPlay in C# is that

I want to simulate half duplex voice chating. Like whenever a person want to
talk, it press a button "Push to Talk". So, all other persons listen like in conference room. It means only one person can talk at one time. If someone press the button "Push to talk" while another talking, voice quality should be degrade.

Can i do this with TCPClient / TCPListener classses. If yes, how i can get audio stream from TCPClient object and how i playback.

Thanks Thanks Thanks in advance. Please help me urgently

Zeeshan

Saved file images

Jerry Hammond6-Sep-05 4:49

Jerry Hammond

6-Sep-05 4:49

I'm a little fuzzy on this. How do I get a saved filed to display the same Icon/image as the application?

Thank you for you responses.

Jerry

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Re: Saved file images

Nick Parker6-Sep-05 8:44

Nick Parker

6-Sep-05 8:44

Toasty0 wrote:
How do I get a saved filed to display the same Icon/image as the application?

You need to call SHGetFileInfo through P/Invoke. A perfect example can be found here[^].

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Re: Saved file images

Jerry Hammond6-Sep-05 10:40

Jerry Hammond

6-Sep-05 10:40

Thanks Nick. I think I've figured out my problem. I have not actually installed the program on my development box so no file association or icon exists yet.

Thank you for your quick response to my question.

Jerry

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Windows Services

Member 19735946-Sep-05 4:39

Member 1973594

6-Sep-05 4:39

Hi,

Would anyone know why creating an instance of a COM Object within a Windows Service would throw up a QueryInterface failed error?

Are there any special permissions required?

Thank you.

Client/Server Communication

batmanAgen6-Sep-05 4:35

batmanAgen

6-Sep-05 4:35

hi,
Does anyone know how can i view/get information about running application on my client pcs in my network through my network server? i want to get license information of the application. i also want to monitor the frequency of usage of the app. what are the things that i need to learn and consider in building such application? need your help and suggestions guys... thnx...

-batmanAgen-

Re: Client/Server Communication

John Fisher6-Sep-05 4:45

John Fisher

6-Sep-05 4:45

Hi,
The description is a bit vague, so I'm not really sure what you're going for. If you are talking about writing your own network communication, read up on the multitude of ways to handle such things (web services, .NET remoting, direct TCP/IP communication, etc.).

Another possible solution is to use the performance counters available through Windows. Here's an MSDN search to get you started. http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?view=msdn&st=b&na=82&qu=performance+counters+c%23&s=1[^] You can also explore this by opening "Administrative Tools" from the "Control Panel", then selecting "Performance".

John

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web.config Help

Brendan Vogt6-Sep-05 3:25

Brendan Vogt

6-Sep-05 3:25

Hi,

Does any one know where I can read a good article on the web.config file? I'm still stuck on my problem, and no-one can seem to help me. I can't seem to find a good article as well.

Let me describe my problem again.

My website has 2 login sections, namely:

wwwroot/members/login.aspx and
wwwroot/admin/login.aspx

Only members can access the members section, and only admin people can access the admin directory. Each section has it's own directory structure.

If someone tries to access a page in the members directory, then he/she should be directed to the /members/login.aspx page, and if he/she wants to access an admin page, then he/she is directed to /admin/login.aspx.

I'm not sure how to set this in the web config file, and if this is the best place to set it. I need this kind of info, and must the web.config file lie in wwwroot, or under /admin/, or under the /members/ section.

How do I modify my web.config file(s) to handle this.

Any online docs/books will be appreciate!!

I hope someonme can help!!

Regards,
Brendan

Re: web.config Help

Mohamad Al Husseiny6-Sep-05 4:27

Mohamad Al Husseiny

6-Sep-05 4:27

do you tried somthing like

<configuration>
    <system.web>
        <authentication mode="Forms">
            <forms loginUrl="login.aspx" />
        </authentication>
        <authorization>
            <deny users="?" />
        </authorization>
    </system.web>
      <location path="/admin">
      <system.web>
        <authorization>
            <deny users="?"/>
        </authorization>
      </system.web>
   </location>
</configuration>

for more info look at
Using Forms Authentication in ASP.NET - Part 1
[^]
Using Forms Authentication in ASP.NET - Part 2 [^]
Forms Authentication Tutorial [^]

MCAD

-- modified at 10:32 Tuesday 6th September, 2005

Best practice with threads?

6-Sep-05 3:13

Hi guys & girls,
I've a problem with threads. I write a Windows Service which handles files. The processing can take some time, so I need to use threads, as some of the files have to be processes as fast and can not wait while other files are getting processed.

My application is designed as follows:

I've three modules. The first module reads and writes "internal" files. The third module reads and writes "external" files. The second modle converts the files, either internal or external, into the other format.

So when the first module gets a file, it gives an object representing the file to the second module, where the file is converted and then the second module gives the object to the third module where it is saved. For external files its the same, just the other way round.

So I thought about using either FileSystemWatcher or a Timer for checking for new files on both sides and then start a thread for each file. But with this the method calls will start in the first module and stop in the last.

So I thouhgt about a different approach. I could create some buffer between the modules and on each side of the buffer a thread looking for new files in the buffer. In the converter module, where the time consuming part takes place I could then start new threads for each file, but this threads would stay inside the module.

I just don't know which approach is better or maybe both of them are bullsh**, so could someone please give me some help with this? I want to create a clean application but I haven't worked much with threads and so I just don't know what would be better. With the second approach I could control the number of working threads better, but I'm just not shure if it is a good method, so please help me with that!

greetings

Stampede

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