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Be aware before you pass judgement that to some people "mentality" is very different to what some others (possibly yourself from your reaction) treat it as. I believe what Nish was trying to indicate was that he thinks John is the sort of person who would take pleasure in hurting someone indirectly at the expense of some unfortunate catalyst individual (of who I can name a handful from this community).
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Nishant S wrote:
Right now his mentality is such that he might rape a 5 year old girl and send a video to her parents just to seee the trauma on their faces when they watched it. It's really sad that this has happened. I still repect some aspects of John, but he was a big let-down in a lot of other ways.
Err,
Nish, your usually very good at explaining yourself, but I think this was an incredibly bad example. There are somethings you just don't use for examples, and peadophillia and rape are two of those. There is a line, and you seem to have crossed it.
"Je pense, donc je mange." - Rene Descartes 1689 - Just before his mother put his tea on the table.
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To be honest, I don't think it's you personally that irritates me - it's the mindless sycophantic masses that encourage you to post more drivel.
You are the child that belches loudly at the dinner table - the others laugh and find it amusing. Neither behavior is acceptable, although without the approval of his peers the child may stop, realising that his behavior is inappropriate.
In the right setting with the right people, crude humor and blunt remarks can be hilarious - a great friend of mine was famous for this. He could have an entire room in fits of laughter with a few well-aimed comments. A public message board with an uncertain audience is not an ideal platform to attempt this brand of 'humor'.
As I said before, some people seem to find you funny. These are the same types of people that will claim they are not racist, yet will laugh like drains when you offend an entire continent with one flippant well thought-out remark.
Your defense is that you say the things that others are too afraid to say, but this is a weak cover-up for your general desire to be offensive. There are many ways to express your opinions, being obnoxious is probably the least effective.
Ironically, these two threads serve as nothing more than encouragement to you. I fully expect you to continue belching at the dinner table, since your disciples will continue to applaud your abrasive behavior.
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
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Miszou wrote:
To be honest, I don't think it's you personally that irritates me - it's the mindless sycophantic masses that encourage you to post more drivel.
That's not fair. This thread is about why you don't like *me*, not the "mindless sycophantic masses".
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A public message board with an uncertain audience is not an ideal platform to attempt this brand of 'humor'.
I know precisely who my "audience" is.
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Ironically, these two threads serve as nothing more than encouragement to you.
Ummmm, no, they don't.
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I fully expect you to continue belching at the dinner table,
Truthfully, I've never done that, but I did fart in an elevator a couple of times. I guess we all break down socially once in a while...
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since your disciples will continue to applaud your abrasive behavior.
And my army grows larger every day. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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Miszou wrote:
These are the same types of people that will claim they are not racist, yet will laugh like drains when you offend an entire continent
You do understand that talking about racial issues (even in a humorous fashion) is not the same as being rascist, right?
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Did I just touch a nerve?
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No, but it sounded like you're implying that people who enjoy racial humor are racists, even if they might just be enjoying a good joke.
Just clarifying the difference.
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Just clarifying the difference.
I would not bother Brian. I posted my reply then saw his "I touched a nerve?" answer and realised no matter how we couch our thoughts he will think he is clever for having "touched a nerve."
Us gay-bashing, cross-burning, coloured-hitting, woman-beating white males just have to ignore remarks like that. *belch* Pass me another beer Brian, oh and your pants are riding too high, can't see your butt crack anymore.
Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa
Chris Losinger wrote:
i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Paul Watson wrote:
can't see your butt crack anymore.
He's probably using Buttcrack Spackle.
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a brilliant product, saved me a fortune on belts...
Shog9
So much he don't understand,
Just might never make it to a man...
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We honestly don't know *what* you're touching, but I have a feeling I'm speaking for everyone that I'm glad you're not in visual range.
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These are the same types of people that will claim they are not racist, yet will laugh like drains when you offend an entire continent with one flippant well thought-out remark.
And that makes me a racist? LOL. Lets get something straight. A racist in practical terms is someone who will vote yes next to the law that asks for "Everyone but [your race] should not have rights and only exist for your betterment." I just find stereotypes hilarious, does not mean I actually force my Chinese butler to ride to and from work on a bicycle 'cause that is what Chinese do.
PC is going too far IMO, if you can't laugh at life then you are so screwed.
John may be bitter, twisted and he does cross the line more than he should, but the man is not stupid and his jokes can be genuinely humourus. People pay good money to go see stand up comics like John, yet John is not acceptable just because he is not an official stand up comic? Come on.
Live a little, give as good as you take and if you cannot ignore him then life must be pretty hard for you because he is tame compared to some of the chaps you will meet.
Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa
Chris Losinger wrote:
i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Paul Watson wrote:
People pay good money to go see stand up comics like John, yet John is not acceptable just because he is not an official stand up comic?
So I should post some p0rn here? After all, people pay good money to go to strip-clubs...
There's a time and a place for everything - This forum is neither.
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Ooh, did we touch a nerve?
Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa
Chris Losinger wrote:
i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Paul Watson wrote:
Ooh, did we touch a nerve?
Not really. But no matter what I say here, you will think you are clever for your 'touched a nerve' remark.
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
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You see, you do have a sense of humour. Fantastic, sit down, have a beer, we are watching an instructional video on how to crush a beer can with your forehead, while driving.
Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa
Chris Losinger wrote:
i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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ROTFLMAO.
Now that you've touched a nerve and thrown in a comedic response, you are going to be accused of acting like the OP.
Chris Meech
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Miszou wrote:
you will think you are clever for your 'touched a nerve' remark
It might not be clever, but it was funny.
Michael
'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879
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I'm starting to become a wee bit concerned about all the touching that's going on...
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I'm starting to become a wee bit concerned about all the touching that's going on...
Well you started this new-age, be-honest, sensitive male thread, what did you expect?
Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa
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Well, for starters, I expected everyone to keep their hands to themselves...
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I don't agree with you totally. I belong to "the mindless sycophantic masses" but I only laugh at the way John presents his opinions and jokes.
I laugh at his jokes about India and China, but for you to tell me that I am a racist because of that is not fair. My ex-girlfriend was from China and I love that country and the people alot. The same with India. It is the stereotypes that are funny nothing more.
Normally I would not express my opinion about US or about the american people on a web site like this. But with John around I can express my stereotypic opinions about the US and it is a relief. The same with jokes. Now we can tell whatever joke we want.
jhaga
CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote:
...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner.
...Good heavens!
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jhaga wrote:
but for you to tell me that I am a racist
Firstly, I didn't tell you that you were a racist - you jumped to that conclusion yourself.
It seems that people are really grabbing hold of the wrong end of the stick here, so let me clarify what I am talking about.
I am talking about simple manners, civility, decency whatever you want to call it. If a child were to make similar comments, you would be appalled at the awful parenting. You would think the child an obnoxious brat who deserves some good firm discipline.
However, when John makes similar comments, they suddenly become funny or appear to elevate him to some higher status within the group. "Oh that's just John, he's allowed to be rude because he's been here for so long and he's so clever".
There's no substitute for good manners - any fool can be rude.
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Miszou wrote:
However, when John makes similar comments, they suddenly become funny or appear to elevate him to some higher status within the group. "Oh that's just John, he's allowed to be rude because he's been here for so long and he's so clever".
It's a lot more fun to step on your dick every once in a while than it is to forget you have one.
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There's no substitute for good manners - any fool can be rude.
But it takes real talent to get people to puff up their chest and proclaim to the world how much more civilized and tolerant they are then the belcher.
I fart at thee as well.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
It's a lot more fun to step on your dick every once in a while than it is to forget you have one.
True, but stepping on your own dick is amusing for everyone else and painful for you. What you are prone to however, is metaphorically kicking other people in the nuts and finding it funny.
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
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