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I was introduced to VS early on in college, and using any IDE afterwards just felt, "meh." VS just has a nice feel to it. Thankfully, I get to use it professionally, and make a point to use it for hobby projects. Another IDE I like, though mostly for tinkering, is Spyder, though it's not as pretty or user-friendly imo.
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Spyder looks decent from the screenshot.
SharpDevelop wasn't too bad, but became mostly obsolete when the free VS Community Edition became available. MonoDevelop doesn't look too bad either.
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I used MonoDevelop a few years ago for some small Unity projects, and it did the job well, but I still know little about it. At some point, I made the transition to using VS for Unity.
Just looked up MD's screenshots, and I kinda miss that UI. Might have to give it another whirl.
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It's incredible how experiences vary, I started with random IDEs and then tried Android Studio and I was amazed, now that I'm writing c# I can't not use Rider, VS feels slow, when I used it for the first few weeks by itself and it was constantly hanging.
Now I kinda use them both, because Rider has a lot less features, obviously ones that are used less frequently, so I write in Rider and edit configs, dependencies and such from VS.
I hope the JetBrains guys will try to achieve feature parity but... yeah, that's going to take a while, assuming they're aiming for it and they don't intend it to be use like I do
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I used AS for one semester for an Android App, and my biggest complaint (that may or not be the fault of AS explicitly) was that the emulators just never functioned correctly. Debugging just became this giant rodeo and a nuisance. Once I found out that I could debug from my own personal android device, things went much, much smoother.
My disdain for it might also be partly because that semester was supposed to be a group project, and it largely became a, "my" project.
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I can absolutely relate to the "group" project part, sadly
I didn't use the Android emulator very much, since I was developing Flutter apps on a mac and the iOS emulator was so much better
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I've been using Visual Studio for 23 years (it was called Visual C++ 4.0 back then), and it did have its issues, and it's still far from perfect. But it's the best software development experience I as a professional software engineer can imagine.
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I've been using VS since it was called Visual Interdev when it was introduced to the UK in 1997 (I was at the launch event in London). I use it full time for web development. Then it was VB, then WebForms (big mistake) and now C# and Razor. The one thing that's REALLY hacked me off with it, despite bringing it up time and time again with MS is the fact you cannot totally switch off code formatting. It is definitely the case that I expend more key strokes correcting it's auto-formatting than I do writing code. It's such a pity. I think it's probably to do with the fact that Razor files contain multiple languages (HTML, C#, JS and poss CSS). Even simply cutting and pasting a piece of SASS, or JS or C# in file ends up with the whole file reformatted. Luckily Ctrl+z corrects it and then you can do what you wanted originally with it.
I think MS assume we all write code from scratch so their formatting is fine. But if you're constantly dipping in and out of loads of projects from all over the place, all with different formatting then you want to do it yourself. If any MS devs are reading this, PLEASE SORT THIS OUT. I have no respect for people that just rush onto the next eye-catcher that(let's be honest) hardly anyone uses, when you don't sort the basics out that effects everybody.
I feel better now
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Here here!! While I generally agree VS is a top tier IDE. I want a moment on the soapbox..
How about bring back temporary projects. I got very spoiled with that feature and then they dropped it in vs2019. They claimed it was dropped because useage metrics deemed no one used it.. yet it immediately got feedback. I called out what usage metrics they could have possibly gotten to make this determination (unless VS phones home your every click??).
What probably happened is temp projects doesnt fit the way they implemented the new start screen, which I find actually a bit clunky to spin up new projects than the old way. It was handy to spin up a console app, tinker with a snippet of code, and discard. No neee to save to a Temp folder and remember to clear it out. For that I still open VS2017 instances.
I'll step off the soapbox now before I go on about their recent trend extensions.
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I remember being in a launch presentation when temporary projects was touted as the big new thing that was going to be really useful, and yeah, it was. So why drop it?
I just recently threw out the set of manuals that came with Visual C++ 1.0 that I bought with my own money. Those were the days
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Yes. The auto-formatting is annoying. Gets it wrong too often. Would be better to disable it completely.
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Yes you're right. MS tooling with C# in particular is way more developed than most other options.
Sadly though it this becomes less true for cross-platform UI and C#.
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Eh, it is all what you get used to... I personally find Eclipse to work the best for me and flounder around in Visual Studio.
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Familiarity does play a role
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Aunt chews fishy seed (6, 3)
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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Is this a cryptic way of saying you have the answer?
If not, I presume
CASHEW NUT
It goes without saying
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Nice and simple, but I liked it!
You are up tomorrow!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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I should boot you out for that!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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Just thought I'd slipper in there
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Even with that clue I could not for the life of me see cashew.
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Aunt chews AUNTCHEWS
fishy (anag) seed
CASHEW NUT
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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I knew it was a nut, just could not get other silly words out of my head. I think senility is getting the better of me.
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Can tell I have been away for a while, I completed missed the obvious.
I thought "chews" was the anagram indicator, and "aunt" was the definition, so I was trying to reassemble "fishy seed".
I managed to get feedyh sis, which I figured looked like a plausible Welsh word for "father"
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Nice try!
("Father" in Welsh is really simple: "Tad". Pronounced as "taad" with a long "A".)
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