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At one point in time I considering writing a tray app I'd leave running all the time whose only purpose in life would be to intercept WM_SHUTDOWN / WM_QUERYENDESSION / whatever it's called, and force it to abort - leaving me in charge to decide when to reboot, no matter what.
The problem is that mine would never be guaranteed to be first app to get that message, and other running apps might have started shutting down already (those I might want to keep running). So, not a practical solution.
It's obvious Microsoft can't do this right. Can someone brighter than I am come up with a working solution?
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Would it be possible to create a dos or powershell script that enables Windows Update Service, checks for updates, installs them, and then disables WUS? Tie it to a destop or start menu icon and do updates on your terms...?
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The problem with manually triggered updates is that you then start postponing installation for a few days...then weeks...then months.
I still want the updates to be installed as soon as my system detects they're available - it's the following reboot I want to do on my own schedule.
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You might be able to do something with Windows Update Notifier[^]. The code appears to be available to create a solution from.
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Looks like some oversensitive snowflakes downvoted your post (marked it as abusive, etc.).
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Slacker007 wrote: Looks like some oversensitive snowflakes downvoted your post (marked it as abusive, etc.).
Don't even know where to look for that stuff. I know it's a problem when my account no longer works.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Unless you're already running another very long MS Update, like Xamarin, or SSMS, when it reboots, why is a reboot such a catastrophe?
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete.
Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun).
While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything.
Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder?
Bah!!!
Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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Herbie Mountjoy wrote: I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled
What ? Since when does the computer decide when a restart has to be done ?
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Since Windows 10. Worst feature in years without the possibility to switch this off...
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I have had windows 10 @ home since the very beginning, and I cannot remember any forced restart.
Or maybe I switched off Windows update
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because it does so "after office hours" or something and usually you switch off before then.
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you can Switch it off - update Settings/new start Options (anniversery update) update Setting/advanced Options, - turn off automatic restart. Default on all my systems.... As it allways was with Windows upates since Windows XP if I remember correctly...
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Nope, unfortunately nothing of that sort.
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Since Windows 10.
Microsoft are trying to do the right thing but in such a ham-fisted way that it's doing more harm than good.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: it's doing more harm than good. In the "every user will learn how to disable permanently Windows Update and will do that by default for the next 3 versions of Windows" way.
Considering that once Win7 corrupted itself by not shutting down in order to install updates, on a laptop, without a power supply, that does not come as a surprise to me.
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I've tried W10, but not long enough to know about update issues.
However, I did run Windows 8 for 2 years+ and hated it, mostly because of various issues around updates - forced restart (occasionally, after forced upgrade) was but one of them. Others were screen-blocking dialogs (really loved them when gaming ), silently resetting system settings , and forcing upgrades at the worst of times, e. g. during comute, without access to power, and battery at 3%
I will be running 7 for as long as I can, and if Microsoft doesn't fix their upgrade issues by then, I'll go and install another OS. If I want to I can always run Windows 7 in a VM ...
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The problem with that is that you need to get an update so you can tell your machine when it is allowed to get updates. Anyone else see the irony in that?
Cheers,
Mick
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Not really, I need to update pacman and the keyring on my Arch machine in order to even continue receiving updates.
Same with any linux distro I've dealt with. It's functionally the same thing.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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Now that is worth knowing.
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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According to that article:
"Windows still won’t restart your computer while you’re actively using it, even outside of active hours
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If that is true, then what is the measure of active? Keyboard/mouse activity or processor or disk IO.
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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Anything I'd say would be assumptive: really my take away was the capability to set maintenance windows.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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No, that is not how it happens anymore. 10 days ago, it happened to me too, my laptop restarted on itself without asking me anything about it.
If this is the case, that you were in the middle of an important work, then personally I would suggest updating the work hours and set it to the timing where your work is about to be done. Windows won't restart during that time.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Personally I see that more as a workaround, than a real solution .
they should allow users to switch the forced shutdown/restart off if they want to.
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