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fgs1963 wrote: What does the USA have to do with this?
In the USA, dollar bills are green. In the UK, the closest you can get is the bluey-green of the five pound note.
Given the current state of our energy bills, we're currently closer to "red/brown" energy[^]. 
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That is called fireworks!
Easy to convert hundreds of dollars into smoke.
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den2k88 wrote: (though I still have to understand why a US house needs more thn 3 times the power available to an Italian house, considering we do use the same appliances).
The other night we had -21C, try to top this in Italy (apart from the Alps). Summers down south are hot. Also, our houses are bigger, and the average household is more populated - 3 kids are quite common. Let's not forget a lot of refrigerators - we are big. Need food 
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Single Step Debugger wrote: -21C, try to top this in Italy (apart from the Alps).
Guess where I live? I had easily -28, we use either gas or in rural areas pellet or wood. Never had any issue.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Yeah, but this is not typical for Italy, is it? The other thing I forgot to mention - most Americans live in houses, while Italians in apartment buildings. And the buildings are more energy efficient with smaller rooms, lower ceiling and the new ones are well insulated.
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As I said below, 3 kW is also for hoises of 3600 square feet. A residential house has 3 kW, 6 if you ask for the EV charging station but 3 of those can ONLY be used by the charging station.
And going to -20 is common for at least a third of the nation.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Got it. More than third of the Italians live in Siberia like conditions, in three store houses and only use two microwaves worth of electricity. Cool.
BTW, just checked - the average annual electricity consumption per capita is twice more in US than Italy, not three times. And Italy has less consumption than the average in EU (again, mild climate).
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Additionally Italy has another thing that a big % of the US doesn't: Humidity
That makes the cold feeling a few degrees lower than the temperature marks. You can ask UKians for that.
Continental cold is easier to fight against.
In Germany I wear the same clothes for -15 or -20 than in my home town in Spain I would wear by 0 or +1, and I feel it colder in Spain than in Germany
M.D.V. 
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The thing is, heating systems are not based on subjective feelings, but on calories needed to counteract the outside temperature. You may think Spain is the harsher environment on the planet, but your monthly utility bills beg to differ.
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Don’t forget the pool!
Pumps use a lot of power!
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den2k88 wrote: though I still have to understand why a US house needs more thn 3 times the power available to an Italian house
Lot of American live in super unnecessary huge houses because bigger is better; they've been told they NEED the 5000 square feet house with sooooo many bedrooms and bathrooms and multi car garage to be recognized as a successful person consummer capitalist.
European usually use smaller appliances; they've had to adapt to higher energy cost and traditionally smaller residential space. have you seen the latest washers and dryers ? even if they are energy efficient, they are probably twice as big as the previous generation appliances
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My parents' 3 floors house, 400 square meters, still has a 3kW power supply and it's still enough, since heating is not done through electricity and AC is used only when necessary and only in the bedrooms.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: though I still have to understand why a US house needs more thn 3 times the power available to an Italian house, considering we do use the same appliances
Because we can. We like our space. It's all part of Manifest Destiny. Big houses, big cars, big screens.
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Amen buddy. Having less emissions in the air is always a great thing, but these deals are all based on lies and scams to put money in certain people's pockets. Rather unfortunate.
Jeremy Falcon
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I know for a few cases when green energy companies sponsored from EU, are buying cheaper energy from nuclear or goal powerplants, resell it as a "green" and pocket the difference.  I'm all "green", but there are a lot of scam schemes milking our good intentions.
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Corruption and abuse is sadly an international problem, it is never a question of "IF" but of "How big" 
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OriginalGriff wrote: Dozens of giant turbines at Scots windfarms powered by diesel generators
Stolen unashamedly from Mad Magazine: Jock be nimble,
Jock be quick
Jock jump into the oil slick
Jock fill bucket
Jock not stop
Jock now icky and full of glop
Jock not caring
Jock not pay
Jock now heating his house this way
EDIT: formatting
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
modified 7-Feb-23 12:08pm.
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Keeping in mind of course that the Daily Record is a 'tabloid' which means it depends are articles generating traffic based on the alarmism. Certainly the author of the referenced piece steps right up on that goal.
Of course companies spin their marketing materials to look good. If a marketing department didn't do that then they should all be fired.
As with every other release that I have seen of green power they use a simple equation of 'green power max'/('total power' - 'green power max') to get the percentage being created.
That is never correct since it does not account of sustained power produced and peak power usage at all. Following is fairly decent although data is somewhat old.
Renewable energy in Scotland - Wikipedia[^]
I didn't do a deep dive but the only sustainable source I saw on the list was hydro.
And far as I can tell there is no storage at all. Only plans for it. Which means comparisons between Scotland usage and Scotland generation is absolutely pointless because they are selling a lot of that green power to other countries.
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I installed Windows 11 about 15 days back, and I notice that the battery usage in Win 11 is more draining than that in Win 10. I have set "Battery Saver" on; even then the battery drains out faster than it did in Win 10. For the same kind of work.
Have any of you noticed this, and is there any remedy, suggestion? (Other than reverting to Win 10  )
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It's a more bloated OS with 70% more spyware as OEM, what did you expect?
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Seems about the same on my Surface.
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Surface?! Are you happy with it? I hate mine! I really do.
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Yes, it's fine - my second Surface after my Pro 3.
Not as fast as my desktop, but I never expected it would be.
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I've had a bad experience with mine. We all did - the company issued about 200 SPs all died in a span of a few months after about 2 years of service. My personal unit also give up after 3 years. Didn't "explode" like the company one but is barely usable (no touch screen and cooling anymore).
Also, the screen size is unusable for development (at least for me) and it's getting hot and noisy really fast. And the sucker is expensive. For this kind of money, you could get Dell XPS.
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