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Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

3-Sep-22 4:05

Mike Hankey wrote:
Most all adults and even young children now have cell phones, they use them regularly.

Kids abhor talking to anyone ~~on a phone~~.

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Mike Hankey3-Sep-22 4:19

Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

3-Sep-22 4:19

So in other words they abhor socializing except on their phones.

The problem with FB and others it that they are designed to make you dance, for a better word.

When you hear your phone ding/beep/whatever you dance like a trained dog to respond and see what/who is notifying you. Your self worth is defined by the number of likes you get.

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dandy723-Sep-22 4:38

Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

3-Sep-22 4:38

Mike Hankey wrote:
When you hear your phone ding/beep/whatever you dance like a trained dog to respond

Plain 'ol traditional phones are, by design, supposed to make you do exactly that. That was their only purpose. It rings, you're expected to pick up. With that understanding, out of courtesy, people don't phone others at 2am.

People dancing like trained dogs, as you put it, is their own choosing (and most people make piss-poor choices in that regard). Personally, anything and everything that can have notifications turned off gets exactly that. And if that's not an option, I ain't using it. Frankly I like it better that way: You want to email me at 2am, go right ahead. The only correct expectation is that I won't get to it until I decide to check. Text? I don't even tolerate a phone set on vibrate.

Mike Hankey3-Sep-22 6:09

Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

3-Sep-22 6:09

Not everyone is trained, they can decide that there life and privacy are more important.

What amazes me when you go to a restaurant and see a family where everyone is on a phone or tablet and not even paying attention to each other. (Just one example)
Is what's on that phone or tablet more important then the family you're with?

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dandy723-Sep-22 8:22

Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

3-Sep-22 8:22

^ This.

The smartphone has turned into the tool of the devil.

Mike Hankey3-Sep-22 9:43

Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

3-Sep-22 9:43

I don't use mine very much.

I always tell friends and relatives...my phone has an off button so if you can't get ahold of me you know why.

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Nelek2-Sep-22 11:33

Nelek

2-Sep-22 11:33

Mike Hankey wrote:
Why do people subscribe to FB

At the beginning wasn't that bad and it was a fast way to keep track of multitudinous events, get the pictures done by other people and offer yours in exchange... back then it was way less toxic, and not so data greedy as now.

M.D.V.

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Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

Mike Hankey2-Sep-22 11:36

Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

2-Sep-22 11:36

I agree, I originally signed on because I had NAM vets that I kept in contact with, but even they got political.

I dumped my FB account about a year ago and all I can say is good riddance.

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fgs19632-Sep-22 12:53

fgs1963

2-Sep-22 12:53

FB was new (.edu only) when my kids started college. I thought “Nice. Something for the younger crowd.” Once they opened it up to all comers I knew it would lead to disaster. I’m glad to have never partaken.

Same goes for Twitter, TikTok, SnapChat (is that even still a thing?). Had an Instagram account for about a month before FB bought them so I bailed.

Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

Mike Hankey2-Sep-22 12:55

Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

2-Sep-22 12:55

I guess I'm not very sociable, only had FB none of the others.

I prefer face to face social contact, Covid put a little bit of a crimp in that but it's coming back around.

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fgs19632-Sep-22 13:05

fgs1963

2-Sep-22 13:05

My sense of humor tends towards sarcasm and irony so online stuff is always rough. Even here (where the average IQ is a bit higher*) I wonder about it at times.

*Sarcasm? Big Grin | :-D

Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

dandy723-Sep-22 4:08

Re: And this right here is why I lie to social media etc.....

3-Sep-22 4:08

fgs1963 wrote:
FB was new (.edu only) when my kids started college. I thought “Nice. Something for the younger crowd.” Once they opened it up to all comers I knew it would lead to disaster.

Eternal September comes to mind.

dandy723-Sep-22 4:02

3-Sep-22 4:02

rnbergren wrote:
Social Security numbers or credit and debit card numbers

[...]

rnbergren wrote:
Why do people put their real birthdate on FB

Birthdate, who cares, but SSN and CC numbers? Seriously, people do that?

C# and Java

Slow Eddie2-Sep-22 4:34

Slow Eddie

2-Sep-22 4:34

I was wondering, how close are C# and Java, syntax?

Would be Java be "easy" to learn if I know C#?

Archchancellor Ridcully

CPallini2-Sep-22 4:37

CPallini

2-Sep-22 4:37

Close enough.
Java is 'easy' anyway.
My two cents.

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-- Rigoletto

Cp-Coder2-Sep-22 5:01

Cp-Coder

2-Sep-22 5:01

Agreed. I found Java easy to master. But I would add a suggestion: If want to master Java, focus on JavaFX. JavaFX makes setting up a good user interface easy.

Oh, by the way: the Kotlin language is very close to Java. Kotlin is gaining popularity. Many large organizations are moving from Java to Kotlin, as it is more modern and very powerful. It is especially popular for developers who write apps for Android devices (such as cell phones)

But: I found Kotlin quite difficult to master. It has a much steeper learning curve than Java.

To do Java (including Java for Windows), I would recommend the IntelliJ IDEA IDE. For Kotlin (especially when writing Android apps) I would recommend the Android Studio IDE. The two IDEs are closely related.

Good Luck!

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Craig Robbins2-Sep-22 6:11

Craig Robbins

2-Sep-22 6:11

Very nice thorough and helpful answer!

(my 2 cents)

Best wishes--

RickZeeland2-Sep-22 4:54

RickZeeland

2-Sep-22 4:54

The languages are very similar in syntax, some of the differences are discussed here:
Guru99-Java vs C# – Difference Between Them[^]

Nick Polyak2-Sep-22 5:41

Nick Polyak

2-Sep-22 5:41

C# is more powerful and is developing faster - my two cents

Nick Polyak

Richard MacCutchan2-Sep-22 6:13

Richard MacCutchan

2-Sep-22 6:13

I did it the other way and found C# to be easy based on my understanding of Java. So I would say you should not find it difficult. There is a great set of tutorials at Java Tutorials Learning Paths[^].

Gerry Schmitz2-Sep-22 7:02

Gerry Schmitz

2-Sep-22 7:02

It's been some years, but when I got a (corporate) Java project, I had to go shopping: Eclipse (IDE), Spring (UI), Struts, Apache (Web server), NetBeans, JBoss (app server), etc. before I could write any code.

c# (Windows; .NET framework) was "no" shopping.

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David H Walker5-Sep-22 7:12

David H Walker

5-Sep-22 7:12

I had a similar experience. I learned Java first, then C#. For a while I was working with both languages. I had a situation occur with a project in each language that required reading and writing XML. I spent two weeks researching (and experimenting with) the multiple libraries for XML processing in Java before I found one that best fit my needs. In C#, there were only two choices (one for processing the entire DOM and one for streaming) and making the choice was obvious.
The issue was that there were hundreds of Java libraries from multiple sources but only the Microsoft official libraries for C#. This was over two decades ago. Things have changed. Research is more efficient. Both languages have matured and are more stable.

Dan Neely2-Sep-22 7:33

Dan Neely

2-Sep-22 7:33

A Brief, Incomplete, and Mostly Wrong History of Programming Languages[^]:
1996 - James Gosling invents Java. Java is a relatively verbose, garbage collected, class based, statically typed, single dispatch, object oriented language with single implementation inheritance and multiple interface inheritance. Sun loudly heralds Java's novelty.

2001 - Anders Hejlsberg invents C#. C# is a relatively verbose, garbage collected, class based, statically typed, single dispatch, object oriented language with single implementation inheritance and multiple interface inheritance. Microsoft loudly heralds C#'s novelty.

I boldest the key differences to be aware of. Laugh | :laugh:

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