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I'm starting a new job on Monday, and I posed some questions regarding the unit testing stuff they do, and asked this question:
"Which testing framework are we using - mstest, nunit, xunit?"
Response (from one of the testers) - "I'm not sure".
How can that possibly be the case? Should I be worried?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I would say that means something like: We don't do unit tests.
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They do automated UI testing with Selenium, but they still have to use a testing framework to "make it go".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Testing can be done in several ways.
I guess unit testing is more a developer / dev-ops thing.
modified 11-Nov-22 12:55pm.
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Regardless of whether or not unit testing is done, you still need some sort of testing framework (for selenium), right?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I played around with selenium with mstest. Haven't tried it with nunit yet.
FWIW, that question was 9 years old... Would it. and the answers it garnered, still be relevant?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Can't tell, as I don't have any experience with Selenium, but I get the impression that unit testing is not needed per se ...
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The tester "tests"; there's nothing to imply that they "program the tests". Integration testing. Acceptance testing.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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But they do, in fact write their own tests (from what I've been told).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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that's the devs job to write the tests the tester just runs them lol while watching cat videos
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Testing in general
I can't hear it anymore, this statement from developers: I implemented xyz tests.
But if I only do the first user actions, not even the slightest thing works.
Developers: Get your finger out of the ass and deliver working software!
Btw: I'm counting me as a developer 
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Congrats on the new job, even if the testers are not up to snuff the environment has got to be better than where you were.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Maybe my question simply got routed to the wrong group. Tomorrow I'll find out. 
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I use MSTEST almost all the time. Simple, versatile, flexible.
I use XUNIT or NUNIT only if an employer requires it.
MSTEST used to be less capable than the other two, but not any more.
MSTEST Cheat Sheet[^]
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That is SUPER valuable. Many thanks.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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They are using Selenium then.
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But selenium requires a testing framework to use.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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It is my understanding that the crypto market is not regulated....at all, and because of this, volatility and dangers are to be expected.
So, when I read about a $45 billion crypto crash, this does not surprise me at all.
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Sure, but who caused a $45 BILLION bubble?
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Or the Social Security Ponzi?
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Ohhhh... don't get me started...
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The lie that they would / could peg it to "the dollar" ... or one dollar ... or some dollar ... or something.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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That's what money market funds do. But they're almost always run conservatively, whereas many stablecoins are run by people who aren't professional investors and are at far greater risk of blowing up--if they're not outright frauds.
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