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OriginalGriff wrote: found my phone in the washer ... 
A friend of my daughter pushed her in her swimming pool last week. Guess who is to buy a new smartphone ?
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The friend's parent? 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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In theory, yes - But well, sh*t happens, they were playing, and I am not the kind to run after people for money. And my time is more valuable than the 10 hours to get the insurance working. So ... 
/edit : And I only buy cheapos phones to my kids just because of that.
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Rage wrote: I only buy cheapos phones to my kids
Very sensible! How do you convince them the cheap ones are fashionable enough? Parents everywhere want to know ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I tell my daughters that if they want the latest fashionable phone, they are welcome to buy it out of their saved pocket money.
Sanity prevails.. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I do not think phone fashion is still a thing - As long as they can snapchat/instagram/whatsapp/whatever like and with their friends, they are OK.
Maybe it could come later when power is needed for gaming or expensive phones are an attractiveness multiplicactor, but I am not there yet.
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There are waterproof cheapo phones around...
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It was one - turns out it cannot resist a swimming pool dive. The inside of the phone did not suffer water damage, but it seems the LCD display itself did not like water, could also be she hit it by falling.
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Did it go deep?
The pressure might do nasty stuff to a phone.
Reminds me that my old phone was only allowed to be used below 4000 m.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: below 4000 m
That's ... deep
She had it in her back pocket and she could stand in the pool, so not more than 2m deep for a couple of seconds.
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A quick check gives 1m for IP67 and 1.5m for IP68.
Those numbers are for 30minutes though.
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... ok, the rednote 10 is IP53, which is nowhere near "waterproof" ... so I might have overestimated the specs.
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Quote: Protected from water spray less than 60 degrees from vertical.
That means it's rain protected.
You probably want IP67 (Protected from immersion between 15 centimeters and 1 meter in depth.) or IP68 (Protected from long term immersion up to a specified pressure.)
I've noticed that the specified pressure is usually just marginally better than IP67
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Sounds like a well executed plan!
“New phone this week!😊”
This was her last Snapchat post with the pool as the background. Just help get it quickly so we don’t break our streak!
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She's a clever girl, so this would even be likely. That's how you become a super villain some time later
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Been there, done that. Happened to my boy on a newish smart phone that was being purchased through contract at the time. He had to suffer going back to the old 2G phone he was using for the next 9 months, until we got him a new one.
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That's close to torture
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At least it wasn't the cat! 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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As long as the lump does not turn out to be the cat...
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Note to Griff, Be Sure Coffee has started working before working on anything.
As for herself or anyone else leaving things in pockets. Many years ago instituted a finders keepers policy on laundry in our household. IT has worked wonders. For a few years though I almost financed a few vacations off found money. Eventually it sinks in though.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Yesterday the wife asked me to call her phone as she could not find it, called but could not hear the ringtone, silly so and so had it on silent so we spend the next 20 minutes checking every flat surface where it could be, nothing. Just as it starts raining (we live on a acreage in tropical Queensland and it is the rainy season) I wander down the back and there it is sitting on a pot plant - and the skies opened up. It survived but must have been a close thing.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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What were you thinking?
Got out of bed - that was your first mistake!
Secondly the secret to a happy life is delegation. Domestic chores not involving tools should be delegated to Herself. (a) She's probably cleverer and more astute than you (women often are, in a quiet way) and thus not likely to launder your phone (not even by accident), and (b) if she does perchance make that mistake you at least have someone else to blame.
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Back in the day I had a not-smart phone that I put through the washer and dryer twice. The first time through lost me all sound, so I had to keep the phone in my pocket to feel it ring. The second time through returned the sound with no additional damage.
They don't make things like they used to, but I sure do prefer my Galaxy to that old thing
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This why "routine" is so important. When my kids were little, it was hard to follow a routine and thus this sort of thing happened all the time.
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I managed to wash my Bluetooth headphones a while ago... They stopped working just long enough for me to order a replacement pair from Amazon... And have been fine ever since...
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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